115 points

You reap what you sow.

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Kinda fucked for the people that didnt sow, but yeah, the ones that did shall enjoy the reaping.

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The people who actually sowed this are only going to reap a few extra weeks of complaining, “the poors are making the streets so ugly, why won’t the police arrest them faster?”

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Especially true for those rightwing religious nuts. Their book tells them Hosea 8:7: “For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

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Delete this

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No. These people voted to make homelessness illegal and now they’re all homeless. What are they gonna do now? Arrest everyone? Fucking do it. Let the people who voted for the scum that passed these laws face the fucking music.

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96 points

Maybe running a political party off of hate wasn’t such a good idea.

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Not to ever be a Florida apologist in my entire life, but hating homeless people crosses party lines.

https://apnews.com/article/california-newsom-homeless-los-angeles-san-francisco-5b2b3aca9ca56efb444a717d278c1fd9

California dems jumped at taking away homeless camps. Not helping them, just destroying the camps. Claim victory, homeless move a few blocks over, or the next town over, without their stuff. It’s like a South Park episode.

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I’m not saying that the democratic party is good on this front. I’m saying that the republican party, the ruling party of Florida is built on hate, and it’s biting them in the ass.

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Yeeep. Boy howdy, White Democrats^TM like to avoid feeling uncomfortable. That’s where they draw their progressive line.

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It’s wealthy suburban NIMBY Dems, not “white”.

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9 points

oops!

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8 points

It’s only a bad idea if you give a shit about the populace.

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It’s isn’t ever a problem or bad idea (until it come back to happen to them)

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It’s not about good ideas, it’s about what works.

It’s funny when the best way to defeat hateful right is to look at right-wing ideas without emotion and prejudice.

Find what makes them work to attract people and form parties. Find the most general subset of that you can coexist with. Incorporate it. Doesn’t work? Look for remaining differences. And so on. Evolution. Survival of the fittest.

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Man who tf goes around enforcing these laws after a disaster. Imagine some wack ass old white guy ticketing people outside of the FEMA medical station for loitering.

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I can see you haven’t interacted with many police in these areas. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least by any of that behavior. The cops only protect and serve property, not people.

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13 points

I never once expressed disbelief.

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Margaret Killjoy did a 2 part podcast about relief efforts in Asheville, and she mentioned that one FEMA worker she spoke to told her one of the biggest hurdles to actually getting people help was the fact that a lot of local rescue and aid efforts are first and foremost run by police and the military (and other local first responders, but in the US police generally outnumber these by a hideous ratio).

The worker mentioned that the frustrations mostly come because community and mutual aid are inherently horizontal - you tell me you need food, I have food, I share food, no strings. Police and military are taught to desire hierarchy and structure and order, they want “these people need aid first and then these people and then these” rather than “EVERYONE needs aid, and if we offer it freely people generally won’t take advantage”, which is usually the case actually. I can definitely see police going “well I know all these people just don’t have homes anymore, but if we stop enforcing this law society will break down entirely”.

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4 points

Rebecca Solnit gives examples of this going back over 100 years

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Nah, it’ll be some 28 year old wannabe Punisher wearing Oakleys whose weekend activities include watching football and abusing his girlfriend.

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64 points

This is why we need to ban hurricanes.

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Nah, we gotta nuke the hurricanes.

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It’s a win-win. We destroy the hurricanes, and we also reduce our nuclear stockpile. I can see no flaws in this proposal. Checkmate, peaceniks!

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I know you’re joking, but I wanted to take this opportunity to make a side note. Nuclear test ban treaties have been effective enough for long enough that we don’t have to scavenge old shipwrecks for low background radiation steel anymore. That’s a huge success, and we shouldn’t squander it.

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What if to stop the hurricanes, we put our nuclear stockpile underneath a steam engine.

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Politicians make laws on the basis of “I’ll never be in that situation”. But then a son or daughter comes out as LGBTQ+ and all of a sudden laws need to change. A daughter has been raped and all of a sudden laws need to change. They don’t make laws to help us. They make laws to control us and sweep away things they don’t like.

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See: Dick Cheney.

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Where’s the law to sweep him away?

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I’m sure there’s plenty, the trick is getting someone to enforce them.

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A daughter has been raped and all of a sudden laws need to change.

Nah, they can afford to fly their daughters out.

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There’s a shocking number of people who walk this Earth without a functional world model or empathy, and don’t feel things until they occur to them personally.

It’s almost akin to a sort of brain damage or disorder, I’m not qualified enough to be able to explain what occurs in the brain structurally for this to happen; only that when they’re grimacing for getting convicted after they’ve murdered 40 people (or millions, if it’s an oil exec, for example) and wondering why that’s happening, you carefully and patiently explain to them that’s only part of what they’ve inflicted upon others and society writ large.

It doesn’t create a “just” or even sane society philosophically speaking, and the legislative process has been almost completely subverted by that segment of the population as you’d pointed out, specifically to be dysfunctional.

Maybe we ought to install more mirrors in the legislative branches

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And what about that politician whose VHS rental history got leaked to the whole world?

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