“If you just listen to these general statements, she actually sounds like a moderate Republican,” Luntz said.
“So the challenge for the Trump campaign is to just stop with these incessant character attacks, and challenge her on the specific issues and her claims,” he said.
The author is expecting trump to act logically…
I have no idea who would think that’s even an option, trump will do the same thing every Republican has done since the rise of American neoloberalism in the 90s:
Move even further right to differentiate from “moderate” Dems.
The result is the Dem candidates start sounding like moderate republicans. Which the author also seems to think is a good thing.
That means the two candidates we have to choose from is the Dem who sounds like a moderate Republican and a completely insane fascist.
I dont know why anyone that isn’t at least as far to the right as a moderate Republican would celebrate that is the most left leaning option. Even they have to realize this arrangement only helps the extreme rightwing party because it turns everyone left of center off from the Dem party. Instead of people happy to vote D, we get people who might not vote at all.
get people who might not vote at all
if harris loses this election, then the country is finished. i hope these “protest vote” morons enjoy being arrested for not being sufficiently obsequious to trump and his roving loyalty verification squads. maybe their “principles” will save them LOL
I think this is a big part of why Harris can win. She’ll pull in enough of the Liz Cheney minded folks, and all but the most extreme lefties will still reliably swing for Harris as well - for exactly the reason you state.
Folks who state that Harris shouldn’t be trying to be moderate or centralist are making a big mistake here. Those on the left would never stop supporting the Dem party while Democracy itself is at state in this country. The ones we’re most likely to lose are the actually the ones who are in the centre, and I fear that these are the ones we can least afford to lose (in particular since so many of them seem to live in the midwest (where smaller states mean higher voting power per person) and in the battleground states.
Move even further right to differentiate from “moderate” Dems.
Which is bad if it means the Dems swing rightward. Fortunately, I have reason to believe the opposite is happening.
Remember, Senator Elizabeth Warren was once considered a die hard conservative: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/16/elizabeth-warren-was-once-republican-she-shouldnt-hide-it/
But her current views seem quite leftie to me. This means me think the shift is going in the opposite direction.
The result is the Dem candidates start sounding like moderate republicans. Which the author also seems to think is a good thing.
Sounding is good in 2024 to retain the never trumpers who pushed Biden past the post in 2020. The danger is less sounding, and more actually becoming. Fortunately I don’t think that’s happening…
The author is expecting trump to act logically…
Agreed. Anyone who expects this is bound to be disappointed.
In today’s NY Times/Siena poll Kamala Harris has a 93-point net advantage with Democratic voters while Donald Trump has just an 80-point net advantage with Republicans - an indication that the unprecedented number of high profile Republicans opposing Trump are having an impact.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-republican-trump-polls-frank-luntz-.html
Please crush the Orange Turd for good.
So a couple of things…
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As usual, national polls are useless. Numbers after the jump.
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“pollster Frank Luntz said.”
- Obligatory “Fuck you, Frank!”
For those who don’t get that reference, it’s from Penn and Teller’s “Bullshit!” episode on polling:
Now… ALLLLL that being said… Last time I did this, Harris hit 270 exactly. First time this year any candidate hit the magic number.
AZ - Toss Up. Harris +1, +3, Trump +1, +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/arizona/
NV - Toss Up. Tie, Harris +1, Trump +1
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nevada/
NM - Harris +5, +8, +10
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/new-mexico/
GA - Toss Up, 5 separate polls show tie votes.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/georgia/
FL - Trump +6, +13, +14
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/florida/
NC - Toss Up, Harris +3, Trump +1, +2, +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/north-carolina/
PA - Toss Up, Tie, Harris +1, +4, Trump +1, +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/
MI - Tie, Harris +2, +3. 3rd parties 0 to 1%, no impact.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/
WI - Harris +1, +2, +3, +4, Trump +1
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/
MN - Harris +5, +6, +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/minnesota/
Plotted on the map:
As usual, PA is a must win. If Harris takes it, that’s it, she doesn’t need anything else.
Failing that, NC or GA + any 1 other state. AZ + NV alone is not enough, that drops her right at 268.
For Trump, he has to win PA to stay in, that gives him 238, from there he needs 32 more. So NC + GA. Or NV + AZ and either NC or GA.
Minimum 1 state for Harris to win, PA. Also a 2 state win of NC or GA + 1 other. Max would be 3 states. AZ, NV + 1 other.
Minimum 3 states for Trump to win (PA, GA, NC), could be as many as 4 of the 5 outstanding (PA, AZ, NV, + GA or NC)
Can someone further compress this down so my illiterate ass can parse it more easily?
Harris has 3 paths to victory, a 1, 2, or 3 state solution.
Trump has 2 paths, a 3 or 4 state solution.
Only 5 states are up for grabs. If Harris loses PA, she has 2 more options.
If Trump wins PA, he still needs 2 to 3 other states.
