Royce White, the 2024 Republican nominee for Senate in Minnesota, wrote in a social media post two years ago that “the bad guys won in WWII.”
White’s controversial opinion on World War II, first noted by Heartland Signal, is still up.
“It dawned on me today,” he wrote in a November 2020 post on X, then known as Twitter. “The bad guys won in WWII. There were no ‘good guys’ in that war. The controlling interests had a jump ball. If you look closely, you see the link between liberalism and communism in the Allied forces. Remember what Gen. Patton said and why they capped him.”
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Yet VoteVets, a progressive political action committee, wasn’t buying it.
“This isn’t just bizarre—it’s reprehensible,” the group wrote in response to White’s post. “His unhinged rants and attacks on his own party show exactly why the GOP’s candidate problem is a threat to us all.”
I mean I don’t think it’s what this guy meant… But he’s kind of right?
There were Nazi rallies in the United States during World war II. Many US corporations still in operation actively aided the concentration and execution of millions.
Autocracy is great for corporations. Here’s a neat little list off the top of my head.
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GE
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IBM
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Ford Motor Company
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General Motors
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ExxonMobil
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Coca-Cola
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Boeing
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Raytheon
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Honeywell
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Dow Inc.
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Dupont
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JPMorgan Chase
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Citigroup
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Halliburton
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Goodyear
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General Mills
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Caterpillar
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Revlon
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Pfizer
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Lockheed Martin
And many, many more…
We were definitely not “The Good guys” through and through. We actively aided the bad guys. But I don’t think that’s what this person meant.
Also, the Russians “won,” and that hasn’t gone so well for the rest of us since.
Still Trump claim Russia is totally without blame for invading another peaceful country. And Putin is really a nice guy who is just misunderstood.
So this is perfectly in line with MAGA crazy mental gymnastics.
There’s also that minor historical occurrence that’s referred to as The Cold War. It was pretty insignificant, you may not have heard of it.
So who were “the good guys” in World War II in your estimation? Because someone defeated the Nazis and liberated the death camps.
The appropriate response when a fascist makes a good point is to tell them to fuck off, because they’re going to twist that to fit their bullshit.
Not American here.
What does it exactly take to grow up some balls and ban the GOP once and for all?
I mean imagine banning the second biggest party in your own country. They’re not a fringe group you can just ban and call it a day.
He’s talking about Communists. The Soviets were a major part of the allied victory. More out of necessity than anything else. I don’t think Stalin wanted to fight the Germans. Not at all. That’s why he signed the The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, though I think he did want to use Germany’s war to try and take territory for the Soviet Union, and expand the Soviet sphere of influence. Regardless, the Communists were on the winning side and people like this guy hate that fact.
They hate communism because the stated goal of communists is to create a classless, moneyless, stateless society. Modern Conservatives might not be fully aligned with Fascists in general, or the Nazis specifically, but they do have one very key thing in common with them: their incredibly strong belief in hierarchy. What the Nazis and modern Conservatives share in common is a belief that some people are inherently superior to others. For this reason, the idea of a society without social classes is abhorrent to them, and so is democracy. They cannot stand the idea of a society ruled by the people. In this regard, they are much more clearly aligned with fascists than communists, or democrats.
Modern Conservatives are not necessarily aligned with liberals, either, although liberalism does not reject hierarchy nor does it require, or even prefer, democracy (see Chile under Pinochet). In fact, I would say liberals prefer that their “democracy” be one that is carefully curated by elites, experts, and certain members of the upper social classes, rather than a state that is completely subordinate to the people. In this regard, I would say liberals are generally more closely aligned with modern Conservatives than communists or democrats. However, liberals and conservatives differ greatly on matters relating to supposed “natural hierarchies,” like racial or ethnic hierarchies, as well as hierarchies based on gender, sexuality, religion, etc.
I mean, i agree. But the Nazis would have been worse.
To be honest, this is the least unhinged take I’ve heard from a rightwinger.
All sides committed crimes against humanity in that war. There definitely were no good guys.
To the tankies, the USSR committed genocides besides the Holodomor, they also massacred the complete intelligentsia of Poland in an effort to break their nation. We will never forget Katyn.
And to the USians, interning your Japanese citizens counts. Your war crimes got Dönitz acquitted. And why are you still running a gulag in Guantanamo?
As a European civilian, you certainly had opportunities to die to a Nazi death squad, Red Army rapists or a US terror bombing campaign. Not that many European nations were better.
