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Brain of Theseus.

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This is the correct way IMO. “Uploading” your mind to a computer is making a clone/copy, but the original dies the same.

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Maintaining continuity of consciousness is the only thing that would make me feel comfortable with converting myself to a machine intelligence.

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I hate to break it to you, but our meat brains don’t even have continuity of consciousness. We become unconscious all the time. The only real constant is the “hardware” our consciousness emerges from, but even that is always changing.

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Except our brains are still functioning. If they didn’t keep functioning, we’d be brain dead. The point is that there’s a common thread that connects every waking moment together.

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I don’t get the down votes. Did y’all forget about sleep? No one vividly dreams every night all night long. Often it’s the fade to black going to sleep then the sudden awakening.

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That’s not what he means and you know it.

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I think the only way we know it is us for sure is if we are conscious in both the original and clone at the same time. Like… okay… I know this is me in the new brain, I’ll shut down the other one.

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Like… okay… I know this is me in the new brain, I’ll shut down the other one.

the other one: i’m pretty sure you’ve got it backwards, pal

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No, no… you misunderstood. We’re just taking a trip to the brain farm up north. You’ll be able to think with the other brains up there. It’ll be fun.

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3 points

Read Old Man’s War.

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I agree.

But here is an interesting thing to think about:

What is the perceived difference between falling asleep and waking up the next day, vs going to sleep and copying your consciousness to a machine/new body.

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Your brain is still functioning while you’re asleep. If it turned off all the way then you’d become brain-dead.

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But would you notice?

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Some sleep is conscious (dreaming) but they’re easily forgotten. Perhaps being unconscious still always has a grain of consciousness (but is just forgotten).

It seems there is a grain of reduced experience while sleeping. Copying seems to imply it’s always a clone (a different ego, a different person).

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reading this comment suddenly reminded me of the “Pantheon” show.

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Man I can’t get that brain laser out of my memory. So brutal

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As long as it’s made mandatory to cover with insurance so it’s available to everyone. The last thing we need is an immortal ruling class.

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Hoping real hard that Alternate Carbon is not becoming reality.

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8 points

I see that you too have heard the prophecy.

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Don’t worry, going by past history this will be available to any and…uhh, [checks notes] oh, uh-oh.

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Oh at this point it seems like we’re treating dystopian science fiction as a guidebook instead of a warning.

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5 points

Someone’s getting hangry and needs a Soylent.

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Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech

Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus

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12 points

Let the death of Saburo Arasaka be a lesson to us all: even 150+ year old bastards can get choked the fuck out

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On the plus side an immortal ruling class might actually start caring about climate change.

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Sure, in the most dystopian way possible.

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… and reduce emissions by wasting the rest. But due to negative selection leading into that upper class they won’t be able to manage the planet further despite thinking that they can and will die of hunger eventually.

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Is a forever expanding population of old people much better?

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If they’re functional, and we get serious about space or birth control, then no it’s not a problem. But that is another path we can take to really juice the dystopia.

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It will take a very long time indeed before we can reach another habitable planet enough to alleviate an exponentially growing population, and forced birth control will be unpopular, not to mention probably employed as eugenics by those in power against those who aren’t.

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this might finally be a way to eliminate insurance companies

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So we get Universal healthcare then, right?

right?

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37 points

We don’t need immortal billionaires sucking up everyone’s oxygen.

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If you haven’t, you should watch and/or read Altered Carbon.

If you choose to watch, it is my opinion that it’s primarily the first season that’s worth watching.

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Yeah it’s not like the rest of the population ever benefits from advances in technology… Oh wait…

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7 points

Found the immortal billionaire. Your username fools no one, highlander.

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Well the “not having extreme longevity” doesn’t seem to function, they are here anyways.

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36 points

The final boss of subscriptions

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