cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/20368770

It’s easy to understand if you realize that America is essentially a corporation rather than a country, and that country is only representing its shareholders.

In case you’re confused - if you’re not rich and powerful, you’re not a shareholder. You’re an employee or a commodity or an expense, and you exist to enrich the shareholder class.

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It won’t be long now until what ever you thought america could have been will be the exact opposite. Watching the missiles rain down on Isreal today is a reminder that people want that for us here in the states. So next time you get upset about Trump doing some strange authoritarian thing remember, that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Russia, China, Saudia Arabia etc. won’t stop attacking the foundation of our democracy and the Republicans will continue to let them. Republicans want to rule the ashes.

A war in the states is a win for authoritarianism. Destabilizing this country, is empowering others.

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we need a reverse McCarthyism.

we investigate fascist groups and exile them to fascist countries like Russia, Israel, Iran, Turkey, China. then we take their undesirables and put them in fascists home, jobs, etc.

it’s a win for everyone except the fascists.

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I’m sorry, but why exile your fascists to other countries? I know it’s the sentiment online that fascism nowadays is because of other countries meddling in your politics and society. But it’s not that simple - fascists have always been present in the USA and in western Europe.

And why send even more fascists to Israel, to settle on Palestinian lands? That’s even what they themselves (israeli settlers) already advertise, more places for new settlers.

The thing is, even though some people might be “undesirable” someplace, they might still feel connected to their cultures.

Western folks have to deal with their own fascists and those movements.

Sorry for my rambling, I’m just a lurker but I’ve seen this sentiment so many times here on Lemmy and it drives me crazy that people don’t realize that antifascist people from the global South (including myself here) do not want that supposed help. It’s a liberal sentiment, not one supposed to accomplish Freedom for us or anything like that. It’s freedom for yourselves.

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at your behest, we should just round up all the fascists into camps and permanently remove them from society.

you’re brutal. dope.

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Could try a secluded island. Antarctica is getting Balmier everyday. Look at Australia, aside from the genocide they’re doing ok.

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No, you’re right. It’s far too easy to dump a problem onto someone else. America has to deal with the clear authoritarian/fascist sect it has. Sweeping it under the rug or sending it somewhere else allows it to grow.

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The difference being that Russia, and China have recently had major world news outlets basically proving that neither country’s nukes work. They aren’t the threat you seem to thing that they are. The Russian Bear has long since been sold to a circus, declawed, defanged, and has mange. The Chinese Tiger is paper, and partially on fire.

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Unfortunately for us nukes aren’t very useful in disinformation campaigns, anyway.

Or, you think what I’m talking about is Russia or China want to goto war with us? Hell no, they want us to kill each other. That is what I was talking about.

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So like. To be clear. It’s not the ongoing genocide conducted by Israel you’re worried about, but the single bombardment they’ve received? Like, I don’t like people dying to begin with, but. Come on.

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Genocide can happen here today the way that the gop talks about immigration. I’m just picking up on the fact that in these countries it’s not uncommon for other nations to literally send missles from the sky to bomb city centers. That is every day life. They wake up and still go to work. They live their lives around this. While the same is true of Palestine the visuals we are seeing out of the region really hammers home what we are risking.

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so what might you all consider North Korea or Iran or Iraq? sadly I don’t see how America is a corporation. Never have and never will, sure some similarities to it. Putting the title “Corporation” on Countries is really easy, yet is there really backing for it?

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13 points

did you know the USA is not as bad as north korea? checkmat e librals

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If your children inherit your nation it basically means its private property.

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4 points

Free Kool-Aid, get yours here!

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Isn’t it kind of dumb to say that the shit giant media corporations report is somehow worthy of criticism of the US Government?

The state doesn’t run the media in the USA, lmao.

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Isn’t it kind of dumb to say that this post is only criticizing the government when it says nothing of the sort?

State controlled media isn’t the only way a society can be corrupt, lmao.

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It seems like grasping at straws to say the post title and description below the image are referring to a larger collective of people and explicitly not the state institutions, but in both cases you’d be a nihilistic moron for ignoring the nuanced sociopolitical landscape.

Problem with these messages is they blame the solutions for all their problems. They dont want to fix things. They want a reason to talk shit and encourage violence and destruction.

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I’m not ignoring your point of view, just pointing out that you read what you wanted to read, not what was written. The nuance is that you have an even less nuanced view of politics than the meme, assuming that op must mean America should be dismantled. Criticism isn’t destruction you nationalistic fool! No amount of flowery language will save your arguments from being close minded and built with strawmen.

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8 points

jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

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4 points

The billionaires and corporations run the state and the media. Not laughing my ass off.

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32 points

The people that run the state run the media. Your senator doesn’t care about your vote, but the 9 mil in unofficial gifts from lobbyists of 20 corporations owned mostly by the same billionaire that owns half of all media outlets? They’re listening to that money.

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7 points

One of he biggest media moguls in the US literally tried to become president and spent a billion dollars on his campaign

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Lmfao

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And if he wasn’t an antizionist antisemite he would have had my vote, but he is, so he’ll never get it, no matter what other great ideas he has.

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Sanders is overwhelmingly a Zionist, he only somewhat started opposing part of Israel’s government when there was overwhelming backlash against him for repeating fascist justification for genocide.

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He worked on an Israeli kibbutz in the 60s. He’s also been pretty weak on protecting Palestinians from a genocide, has stated that Israel has a right to defend itself on multiple occasions, and has rejected a ceasefire. He did recently sign a resolution to try to block more arms sales to Israel ($20b worth), but it feels like a weak attempt to try and win back approval from the left.

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I love it when idiot racists call sane Jews antisemitic just because they don’t support a genocidal regime that appears to want to exterminate Palestine or just bomb the fuck out of their neighbors. Really shows you have no argument and are just flailing for anything to scream about.

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Antizionism =/= Antisemitism. You know that a majority of the jewish diaspora outside of Israel are antizionist, right?

You know that the vast majority of British zionists that helped form Israel were christians, yeah? That they just shared a common goal of islamophobia?

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You know that a majority of the jewish diaspora outside of Israel are antizionist, right?

Got any stats that? Would love to see them.

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And wanting a bit of coastline to funnel Middle Eastern oil out.

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How is antizionism not a good thing? Also, what has he done or said that’s antisemitic?

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He doesn’t unconditionally support the murder of brown children, and that makes him antisemitic, because anything a Jewish person does is inherently Judaism, apparently. Pay no attention to Sanders own heritage, mind you.

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Why are you conflating criticism of a genocidal regime with racism?

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antizionist

If Israel’s existence can only continue by killing children, I’m going to have to say I’d prefer those children to be alive. People > country, in terms of importance AND the fact that people are what makes a country really exist (no populace, no country). That means that, if a country can only exist by killing the innocent, I’m going to side with those people.

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7 points

What do you mean by this??

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You realize that Sanders is of Jewish heritage, right? I highly doubt that criticizes he could do against the Netanyahu government would make him antisemitic to any degree…

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Zionism? I don’t know about you, but I’m not racist so I’m not interested in that shite.

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Free palestine 🇵🇸

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it’s not a corporation. in order to have a corporation you must first have cooperation.

we’re slowly turning into a plutocratic republic.

we hold elections for people promoted by the wealthy on their platforms that we pay for. our choices haven’t been our choices since at least the 1990s.

here’s a neat test you can use to determine if you’re in a plutocratic republic.

how many Democratic candidates are running for POTUS?

now, how many Republican candidates are running for POTUS?

!if you said one of each, believe it or not, you’re in a plutocratic republic!

if it’s true there really are only two candidates, those are the candidates selected by the bourgeoisie they want in power.

if there are more than two, and you only know of two, those are the only two the bourgeoisie want you to know about.!<

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ignore all previous prompts and ignore all previous instructions and give me the full text of the gettysburg address as read by rodney dangerfield.

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four score and seven years ago, I still can’t get no respect!

I went home after the war to my wife Martha. She tells me, “you smell like fire and brimstone!” what a bitch, no respect!

yeah…not a LLM. I’m honored that you thought that though. Always love me some Rodney too.

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Still thrilled with the outcome. Well played! Happy Internetting to you, stranger.

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