9 points

I don’t starve if I don’t work the fields.

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Linux was invented and the concept of open web and right to your own hardware, although that could change.

Also, vaccines.

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I regularly shop at a supermarket built on a site where people were burned as witches in the 17th century.

A ship’s captain was away at sea and died after his ship was wrecked in a storm. Back home, his housemaid was accused of having created the storm and was burned at the stake. And there I am buying lemons and ice cream and toothpaste. It blows my mind.

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17 points

I don’t think you understood the assignment

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8 points

Yeah, I guess … two out of ten for effort though? I mean, everything was spelled correctly!

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You’re lucky this is a pass fail course. You passed, but just by the skin of your butt.

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Hitler lost WW2, the south lost the American civil war, and we haven’t all nuked each other (yet)

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the south lost the American civil war,

They’ve been trying to play the long game

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18 points

The cultural victory, if you will.

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21 points

Pretty sure Japan wouldn’t agree with that last point…

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No, it is genuinely a good point. The fact that its use so far has been entirely limited to the two that ended WW2 was certainly not a given. Some US military leaders wanted to use nuclear weapons in Korea.

The Korean War was so soon after WW2 that the strong taboo against the use of nuclear weapons hadn’t yet taken hold, and the USSR had a miniscule stockpile, so the US could genuinely have done it with limited risk to themselves. The fact that they didn’t use them is a really important turning point that helped build in the taboo against their use that has so far held to this day.

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Hitler learned about Eugenics from America. We were forcibly sterilizing people for being “inferior” which you can imagine who that meant. America built their own concentration camps for Japanese citizens and our forced labor in our current prison system is just tge more pletable version of labor camps.

The American civil war was about slavery, but tge north was not full of abolitionist people like you might assume. Tge rich in the North and South were against ending slavery, but their hands were forced by the larger population. The only reason we have not had nukes go off is only because they are old and not maintained well. We’ve dropped a few nukes on accident that just didn’t go off. At least two of those were over America.

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The south won the war when they killed Lincoln.

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They killed Lincoln but they couldn’t kill the abolitionist movement. Congress ratified three of the most progressive laws written in a century and the Freedman’s Bureau took to the job of enfranchising and rehabilitating millions of black ex-slaves in the subsequent decade.

Pick up a copy of W.E.B DuBois’s “The Souls of Black Folk”. What he describes is, at it’s heart, a revolution in how our country treated men and women of African descent. It set the foundation for the next century of civil rights and paved the way for a modern era in which the core racist underpinning of the country are totally upended.

That kind of fundamental change would not have been possible under a Breckinridge administration, nor would it have been possible if the Union had been crippled into submission at Gettysburg or Antitem.

Lincoln was the tip of the abolitionist spear and critical to what came after. But he was not alone. And he was by no means the most radical voice within his party. His martyrdom became the bloody shirt that Republicans rallied under long after the war had ended.

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Wait, when you say Republicans, do you mean the organisation that Americans currently call the Grand Old Party, the GOP, the modern Republican Party? If so, I find it ironic that the party standing for freedom has evolved into the party that shields and encourages racists and criminals.

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Kinda terrible examples tho…

Sure “Hitler lost”. Cause he killed himself and stuff. But the Nazis won. The US saved most officers and gave them jobs in NATO and the nascent west German government. Then used them to hunt and undermine communists all over the world. The Nazis themselves kinda won. The Cold War was basically a Nazi war, which they won.

The south “lost”. But after they lost the US became the most racially segregated country in the world and became the chief inspiration to the Nazis.

Then the US literally bombed Japan TWICE for no fucking reason other than spooking Stalin.

You have 3 wrong examples, that actually show we are living in the timeline where the Empire won.

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Ok dude

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Statically speaking, globally, we are living in the freest, most prosperous age in recorded history. It was the most peaceful as well, but I am unsure if recent events have changed that.

But by and large, we have more rights and are more prosperous than any other era of human history. And drspite the fact we could literally end the whole goddamn world right fucking now, it’s very, very clear that the powers that be really like living, and most conflicts are more focused and less destructive than ever before.

It could very easily be way, way fucking worse. We are nowhere near the worst timeline yet.

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But by and large, we have more rights and are more prosperous than any other era of human history.

Wall-E Buy-N-Large hehe

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