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Maybe, but the pager thing was definitely terrorism.

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100% correct

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No, it’s not. You can’t fucking win with the pacifists.

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Hi, I’m definitely not a pacifist. I’ve been in war zones. And the laws of war exist for a reason. The choice is not war crimes or pacifism. Anyone telling you that is a shit person trying to make you a shit person. Don’t listen to them.

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You can’t fucking win with the pacifists

Especially if your entire argument is the equivalent of “nuh-uh!”

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I would hesitate to call it terrorism, it was targeted at military persons with an intent at military disruption and any public casualties were collateral damage. It may have been a war crime though.

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I was a war crime, I can’t find any way to even debate it not being.

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Sabotaging dual-use communications devices that are used, specifically, by members of an enemy paramilitary group is not a clear-cut war crime. On the other hand, there is a very strong argument that ‘blind-firing’ such devices en-masse without regard for the proximity of civilians or possibility of civilian harm is a war crime via insufficiently discerning use of force. But even that is something that could probably be argued in a legitimately-unbiased international court - not that it’ll ever fucking get to one, considering Israel’s history with international courts.

Either way, it’s a shite move that was only meant to escalate the situation so Bibi can stay in power a few more minutes. Vile shit.

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I don’t think you can just call things you don’t like a ‘war crime’

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I mean. It legally doesn’t fall under the definition of terrorism, so there is that argument, lol.

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We can’t leave mines out in a place all the civilians have left because they might one day get found by a civilian. Actively introducing bombs to the public market is absolutely a war crime.

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47 points

Stop funding Israel’s unjust wars.

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Very odd to be a vassal state to a mooch ethnostate with 1/100th your population numbers…

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Iron law of institutions. Institutions do not make decisions by the rational calculus of the institution. Institutions make decisions by the rational calculus of the decision-makers.

Israel has managed to quite thoroughly exploit that little detail in capturing our political system.

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So gross that the US considers the use of multiple 2000 lbs Bunker-buster Bombs on a residential district of a counties Capital, flattening at least six residential buildings, burying and killing hundreds of civilians, as a ‘measure of justice.’ because the intended target is the terrorist and now using Human Shields, so it’s their fault for all those civilian deaths, not Israel. Terrorism is only what Our and Israel’s enemies do.

Whatever violence the US and our Allies do is good and just, whatever violence our and our Allies enemies do is bad and unjustified. The double standard is so flagrantly obvious. It’s not about civilians, or peace, or justice. Israel can kill however many civilians they want, even US ones, and the US will still back them.

All that money could be going to our crippled Social Services instead and actually help people’s lives.

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It’s not great optics that’s for sure.

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Since 23 September 2024, when Israel began its airstrikes on Lebanon, Israeli attacks have killed over 700 people,[25] injured more than 5,000,[26][27][28]and displaced hundreds of thousands of Lebanese civilians.[29]

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When did Hezbollah start bombing Israel? Are there any displaced Israeli civilians?

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Yes, a bunch of had to evacuate their homes. This is why the government has come down so hard on them. Disproportionate? Sure, but then the government has never been known for their reasonableness

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Hezb has never stopped bombing Israel. But if you want to be more species Hezb started lobbing rockets into Israel on OCT 8 2023 and never stopped up until this day at a rate of 50 rockets / drones per day. This displaced around 150k israelis which represent most population on northern Israel. They also killed plenty of Israelis including 12 Druze children. Israel just said enough is enough after 10 months or so and decided to completely eradicate Hezb.

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