The article is actually decently well written good-faith satire meant to address how poverty and hunger are inherent to capitalism as a system. The title was just too bold lol

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So he’s not defending/promoting “world Hunger”, just arguing that it’s not a bug but a feature developed to have cheap labor, and that the people in power don’t want to end it

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Sounds good at a glance, but when you look at the way he reaches that conclusion (that the threat of hunger is the only reason people are willing to work), and his solution (for a class of “intellectuals” like him to take charge) however, are just neoliberal swill…

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Maybe they should build a city in the ocean where these intellectuals have full control. Maybe experiment with some cool drugs.

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12 points

Would you kindly come join us?

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Sounds positively Rapturous

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Lmfao, I’d pay to watch them descend in to chaos as they insist on ranking each other by importance or whatever arbitrary measure of superiority they choose, because they simply can’t function otherwise, until they all end up dead from refusing to “lower” themselves to cooperate with “inferiors”.

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I imagine the UN wouldn’t let an author publish something that calls for revolution though lol

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Sure, but they shouldn’t be publishing this garbage either.

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That would be the first time the UN actually did anything.

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Usually most sane people go “Hunger is used to extract labour from people so rich people can make money, so we should change this state of affairs” not “this is good and how we should continue, in an evil usually the preserve of 19th century British Imperial officials.”

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How does the saying go? When your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail?

The only tool he has is what capitalism gave him - the idea that people will only work if threatened with starvation, homelessness, or other punishment.

The idea that the benefit of a community and society at large, and by direct extension - our own, could motivate people, or to be more precise, the idea that society would benefit everyone not just a “select” few, doesn’t even come in to consideration.

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his solution (for a class of “intellectuals” like him to take charge) however, are just neoliberal swill

This is such a common pitfall that even self-described communists fall into it as well. When you hear people talk about a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” what they’re describing tends to devolve into “a class of intellectuals needs to guide the working class to the correct decisions” when questioned about what a “dictatorship of the proletariat” actually entails. Often they’ll try to justify it by saying it’s only temporary, but we all know how that pans out (see the USSR). This is why I consider myself an anarchist rather than a communist and regularly critique marxism-leninism.

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If i recall correctly, this is basically the entire premise to Animal Farm. Great book.

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Isn’t this what Anarchists and other Anti-capitalists have been saying for well over 100 years? That despite having the ability for abundance, we use scarcity to extract labour from people to make rich fuckers money?

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Lenin made the clearest case for it in Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. Financial and Industrial Capital is exported directly to the sources of raw materials and lower cost of living, which is then hyper-exploited for super-profits domestically.

Even within Capitalist countries, starvation is kept dangerous because Capitalism requires a “reserve army of labor,” as Marx put it. It’s the idea of “if you weren’t doing this job, someone would kill for it” that suppresses wages.

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This is such a clickbait, and it backfired.

The actual point conveyed in the article is that world hunger is beneficial for the rich as it allows to operate sweatshops and employ people under tyrannical conditions over low pay, which is not far from modern slavery. Which is super bad for everyone else, hence world hunger must be stopped and rich should get the taste of their own medicine.

But people did react to the headline, and possibly rightfully so.

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Well i didnt read the article but it depends on the framing. Is he defending the capitalist status quo? If yes then he can go die of hunger imo. If the article points out that rich people benefit from hunger and that this is in fact bad, then thats cool.

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He does directly state the latter.

Here’s an archived version of the article, courtesy to TheDarkQuark@lemmy.world:

https://archive.is/MObDZ

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What a self own with the title then. Should have changed it to “The beneficiaries of world hunger”

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Yeah I’m pretty sure the title was a bit of a tragic, click-baity, foot-gun. Lol

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On duty

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I’m not reading any argument against it.

(Because you aren’t hungry enough to debate it)

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hunger is “fundamental to the working of the world’s economy”

I mean, he’s probably right, but that means we should work to change the system, not throw more orphans into the crushing machine

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But the machine needs those orphans to keep going! Why would we want to deprive the system of what it needs? Won’t anybody think of the shareholders!?!

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Which is actually said in the original article

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there’s no “but” – this is exactly the point the author is making.

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7 points

Won’t anybody think of the employees in the orphan crushing industry?

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Before you have an opinion on it, just read the article, it’s just one page. https://www2.hawaii.edu/~kent/BenefitsofWorldHunger.pdf

The UN really shot themselves in the foot by deleting it, because the title only looks bad if you don’t actually read the rest of the text, which they now made more difficult.

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they probably would’ve just added [SATIRE] to the title

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6 points

A modest proposal for the global south

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I edited my post 👍

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No, the text is pretty fucked, too

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The text is only fucked the the way that The Onion sticks are fucked: this is only labeled satire because of the tone of the article. The content is as true as “real” news.

The actual “fucked” content is that the author was correct, and that the wealthy benefit from hunger and the threat of starvation to maintain access to abundant cheap labour.

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It’s fucked that the author appears to support such an arrangement…

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FEE is an American Libertarian think tank.

Let that help you figure out what’s actually happening here.

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