If only people could understand the basic concept that hating a government is possible without hating the people living there.
Exactly. Hamas is a monstrous organization based on the most corrupted religious fundamentalism, but I have nothing but love for the people of Gaza.
Reminder that Hamas is widely supported by most Palestinians
53% of Palestinians believe Hamas is “most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people”
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87
First of all I really wouldn’t put much weight on the voting results in an area where Hamas uses violence for decades to keep in power. Especially if there isn’t any semblance of a modern democratic state such as regular(!!) elections, freedom of speech and a free press. A 1-2 generation long youth indoctrination like the Nazis did also really doesn’t create an educated and politically mature population.
And of course 53% still leaves a huge amount of people who aren’t in favour. Not to mention that there is a 70+ year long ongoing conflict which has left pretty much no one in Gaza (or Israel for that matter) who doesn’t know someone getting hurt or killed by the opposing side’s actions. It’s hardly surprising that there’s hard feeling (major understatement) in a lot of people.
And lastly we certainly wouldn’t want to use public opinion as justification for killing civilians. That’s the reasoning the likes of Osama bin Laden do to justify shit like 9/11.
TL;DR: This conflict is complicated as hell and basically a self fueling cycle of hatred where even the good side is acting very shitty a lot of times.
One of my favorite quotes:
If I have one message to give to the secular American people, it’s that the world is not divided into countries. The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don’t know each other, but we talk together and we understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same. - Marjane Satrapi
Different situation, same idea.
Lemmy’s flooded with anti-palestinian-occupation propaganda today.
Please keep it up.
Wow, the anti-Israel propaganda machine snaps into action before the Israeli civilian deaths are even counted. This is just shameful.
Yeah sure… it is not like Israel is operating dedicated social media propaganda… Oh wait they do and love to turn the narrative into themselves being the victims of unfair persecution and claiming any critique to be antisemitism.
Did you mean to link two stories that detail how Israel debunks fabricated anti-Israel propaganda?
Because you just linked two stories that detail how Israel debunks fabricated anti-Israel propaganda.
[Israel] won’t leave negative stories out there online without a response, and we will spread positive messages. …We are putting public diplomacy in the hands of the public. (Linked from your first source)
Around 180 students [are] looking out for false anti-Israel coverage and explaining facts (from the Second Source that you linked)
I guess take my upvote for your support of honest reporting on anti-Israel propaganda.
Are you really that naive?
The propaganda entities are of course saying that they are just “debunking” and reactes to “false coverage”. Their job is to spread propaganda, not to do fact checking.
If you struggle seeing this just reread and replace Israel with China:
China won’t leave negative stories out there online without a response, and we will spread positive messages. …We are putting public diplomacy in the hands of the public.
Around 180 students [are] looking out for false anti-China coverage and explaining facts
Would you really believe this to be the real objective and not to just spread propaganda and drown out criticism? If it was just for facts they wouldn’t need that, as there is enough of neutral or slightly positive towards Israel media outlets all around the world that provide reasonable coverage of Israel. But when you bomb hospitals and schools there is only so much factual positive coverage possible.
Im seing a bunch of things about israel right now, im out of the loop on this. Can somebody fill me in on what (if anything) happened?
Hamas launched a whole bunch of rockets at Israeli civilians and killed many. Israel declared war as a result. Situation still ongoing
Dude, it’s a fucking ground invasion. They are murdering civilians in their homes and kidnapping Israeli citizens into the Gaza strip
Invasion is a bit over the top. It is a few thousand fighters with no chance to reconquer any territory. It is an incursion at best.
Hamas launched a bunch of rockets from Gaza in a surprise attack on a holy day and then put ground fores in. This attack killed at least 100 Israeli civilians (Israel is also claiming near 1000 more injured) and has captured more.
Israel is of course going to retaliate and try and destroy the sites (surrounded by civilians since Hamas is known to try and use sensitive civilian locations as shields) and probably occupy Gaza in an effort to keep these rocket attacks from happening. Which will cause more Palestinian casualties, thus the cycle continues.
Israeli already killed more than 200 civillians in Gaza including bombing a hospital killing at least one international MFS medic.
To be fair, they were very open about intentions to bomb Gazza from the first moment war was declared. PM called for civilians to evacuate to city.
A reminder:
Palestinians are awesome!
The genocidal regime that rules over Gaza who murder innocent people while blocking Palestinian democracy is NOT AWESOME!
Try being gay or trans in Gaza. And see how awesome cool 😎 the Palestinians are.
We gay people must provide the palestinians with clean drinking water, and this will change hearts and minds 🏳️⚧️🙆♀️
What about all the Palestinians internationally that are currently celebrating that massacre?
Probably the same as all the Jewish and Christian people internationally that celebrate and monetarily and militarily support the Israeli apartheid regime even as they would kill innocents, cut off water and supplies, and kill journalists. ESH.
Palestinian citizens are given supplies by the IDF. I always found accusations of cutting supplies to citizens very uninformed.
