Some folks have gotten themselves together as something they’re calling the Social Web Foundation, and I’ll cut to the chase: this is an attempt by ActivityPub partisans to rebrand the confusing “fediverse” terminology, and in the process, regardless of intent, shit on everything else that’s been the social web going back twenty-five years.

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What’s a better protocol for a social web?

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maybe OcapPub ?

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Thank you for this. Written by one of the AP designers to address privacy and security elegantly and natively. It is the best option for the future of networking and gets nowhere near enough adoption, funding, and developer resources.

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hate the player, not the game

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His point is there is no one protocol for the social web. The (open) social web is built on a pluriverse of protocols, like rss, email, irc, matrix, activitypub, atproto…

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Applause for the term “pluriverse” (did you coin it?).

And a standing ovation for the alliterative phrase “pluriverse of protocols”.

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I was there 👆🏼

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I was the first person to post on the pluriverse in 2008.

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I don’t get that from the article. And I mean it’s not a “web” if it’s not interconnected, is it?

Things have shifted a bit in the last many years. Now almost no one reads blogs anymore. They want doom-scrolling and interaction. And even the old school nerds moved away from RSS, Mail and IRC. I also liked some Linux forums, but I feel it got more quiet there during the last years. Mostly to the benefit of proprietary platforms like Discord and such. But I don’t thing they’re very social, as in open and giving freedom to the people…

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tcp

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This Bix guy seems a bit butthurt.

Like, I am sure there are dozens of definitions for what “social web” is and when it began. And that sentence about Evan surely is sus, but is one sentence on one foundations website. I’m still thinking that this foundation will be pretty irrelevant.

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By the same token Evan seems a bit self centred and egotistical about his projects. Of you look at his comments about BlueSky it seems he’s pretty bitter that someone dared to make an alternative protocol that so far has a decent amount of users, when a acceptance of multiple systems experimenting and borrowing from each other for the good of the open web is right there as a natural position.

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Given how other impactful contributors to the ActivityPub spec have been presenting their work in public vs how Evan does it, one can certainly get the impression that he is a bit self centered, yeah.

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Interesting to see those kind of things happen, hopefully it’s only a first one.

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Who cares

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it’s better than “threadiverse” which at once includes the name of a Facebook product and seems to also give Facebook all the credit for mastodon, Lemmy, pixelfed, peer tube be etc, while also making them appear to be second class citizens.

but I am not endorsing this “social web” thing yet, either.

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Oh no! Somebody organized to further the interests of the free and open internet, and they didn’t invite me even though I was active on some IRC channel in 1995!

Cry me a fucking river.

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