Some folks have gotten themselves together as something they’re calling the Social Web Foundation, and I’ll cut to the chase: this is an attempt by ActivityPub partisans to rebrand the confusing “fediverse” terminology, and in the process, regardless of intent, shit on everything else that’s been the social web going back twenty-five years.

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it’s better than “threadiverse” which at once includes the name of a Facebook product and seems to also give Facebook all the credit for mastodon, Lemmy, pixelfed, peer tube be etc, while also making them appear to be second class citizens.

but I am not endorsing this “social web” thing yet, either.

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Oh no! Somebody organized to further the interests of the free and open internet, and they didn’t invite me even though I was active on some IRC channel in 1995!

Cry me a fucking river.

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This Bix guy seems a bit butthurt.

Like, I am sure there are dozens of definitions for what “social web” is and when it began. And that sentence about Evan surely is sus, but is one sentence on one foundations website. I’m still thinking that this foundation will be pretty irrelevant.

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By the same token Evan seems a bit self centred and egotistical about his projects. Of you look at his comments about BlueSky it seems he’s pretty bitter that someone dared to make an alternative protocol that so far has a decent amount of users, when a acceptance of multiple systems experimenting and borrowing from each other for the good of the open web is right there as a natural position.

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Given how other impactful contributors to the ActivityPub spec have been presenting their work in public vs how Evan does it, one can certainly get the impression that he is a bit self centered, yeah.

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As I’ve only just recently written here, blog comments are not social media, and I think such things should remain separate.

So it’s definitely not social media but it is the social web? I don’t see any comments section at all over there. Some of these “indieweb” guys are pretty weird.

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> However, the Fediverse was never just about ActivityPub

Correct. As those of us who used GNU social 10 years ago will never tire of telling you, it was coined to describe the OStatus network. Once all the software using OS adopted ActivityPub, it came to describe the AP network, and anything hanging directly off it (eg Diaspora).

> ATProto is part of the Fediverse too

No it isn’t, because…

> Fediverse software doesn’t speak it.

Same with XMPP, Matrix, etc

@erlend_sh

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