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Organization seeks ‘immediate arrest’ of Trump and Vance over Springfield hoax

Fixed the title. I read nothing to suggest that Trump or Vance are currently in any danger of being arrested in Springfield, Ohio.

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Yeah, they do not “face immediate arrest” there have been calls to arrest them, but they face nothing.

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I know the hexbear community loves that comic. Where is it from and what is the context?

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It’s from the Onion! The artist is Ward Sutton but he’s drawing the comics from the point of view of a character named “Kelly” who is a parody of an old right wing guy (according to the Internet) who hates political correctness, hence the exaggerated scenarios in the comics. The “haha yes” sickos guy (who I guess sometimes shows up in a thought bubble) usually feels like a parody of how the right views various left wing policies in that the comic overplays / exaggerates the disastrous effects of said policies (to make fun of how absurd those fears are) while the “leftist sickos” cheer on the disastrous results.

The comics basically make fun of how extremely the right views progressive policy and the sickos guy is kind of pointing out how absurd it is to view someone as bad faith (ie a sicko knowingly cheering on the disastrous effects of a progressive policy) who supports something as simple as green energy, drug legalization, or bike lanes. It’s fun to use as a reaction image to anything progressive happening because obviously wanting something like for example affordable healthcare obviously doesn’t make you a sicko. (Or in this case wanting a terrible person to actually face actual legal consequences for the harm they’ve done)

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I’m beginning to think RawStory exaggerates their headlines for clicks. An organization has asked a court to arrest them, a FAR cry from facing immediate arrest.

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RawStory faces immediate arrest for spreading disinformation and falsely representing ongoing legal situations!

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Ha, I wish!

Edit: Wait… If we send a message to a court, we can make it happen!

Also, gotta ask, is your name from the old Marvel villain or?

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Nope, that bastion couldn’t tolerate the existence of mutant powers. This bastion, not only has no problem with mutant powers, but downright enjoys them.

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Wow. Just looked into your comment history. Wow.

Seems you really need some good things in your life. Let us know if we can help.

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28 points

wow, just read this comment, wow, what a string of words ordered in such a specific manner to demonstrate a specific concept.

Seems like you just need some more strings of words in your life. Let us know if you need any examples of better or different strings of words.

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23 points

He’s fine.

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28 points

He’s also right. The headline is shit.

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They really aren’t

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I’m not going to look into the parent poster’s history, but they are right. As much as I despise Trumpists, the GOP and the media enabling them, RawStory is no better. Whenever I see such headline, I get to say “let me guess… yup. RawStory.” I’m this close to blocking them. I’m done with yellow press, be it from Fox News, Breitbart or, yes, RawStory. Give me something more objective, like APNews*, for example.

*I don’t like APNews movie critics, to be fair.

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I looked. The guy is pretty normal.

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I absolutely despise Donald. But RawStory headlines are nearly as false as the drivel coming out of his mouth.

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But they’re right tho

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5 points

Wow. Not you too.

jk, I checked, op is definitely the one out of line here - no idea what they’re on about actually

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? What in there got you so upset? The notion that playing sports could be fun? The horror of someone, ugh, criticizing communism?

I’m genuinely surprised and morbidly curious.

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“There’s nothing special about Trump and Vance that entitles them to get away with what they’ve done and are doing,” the attorney added. “They think they’re above the law. They’re not.”

Except for the Senate Republicans who would not hold their own accountable for crimes they committed or the federal supreme Court Justice feeding Trump’s attorney legal advice to use in the lower courts. And the billions in PAC funds and trinket grifts used to campaign for politicians and appoint judges who are loyal to them above the Constitution and citizens. And anything Trump did as president is legal if he says it was part of the job. Except for those facts sure they’re just like you or me in the eyes of the law.

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Yeah, you can’t even pretend that Trump isn’t above the law when the Supreme Court has literally ruled that he is at their discretion.

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Technically the ruling was for crimes official acts he committed while in office.

He’s no longer president and holds no privilege, except being the Republican nominatee for President. Which apparently is a protected class.

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Correct. Regardless, it has been codified that he IS above the law in some cases. Slippery slope is not a fallacy in this instance.

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even as a president, this wouldn’t be protected under the immunity act, only presidential actions. Speaking to the public, as far as i am concerned is not considered to be a core “presidential action” in the government.

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I believe this would be a state issue though, so some of that doesn’t apply.

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Tempted to remove as “Fox by Proxy” but here’s an alternate source which confirms the story and raises an excellent point:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/g-s1-24436/haitian-group-charges-trump-vance-springfield

“If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Chandra said the U.S. Supreme Court’s July ruling granting ex-presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution does not apply in this case because Trump is currently a private citizen and Vance was not acting in his capacity as a senator when he amplified the rumors that members of Springfield’s 15,000-member Haitian community were eating people’s pets.

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"If it were anyone else … they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Those two sentences don’t add up.

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Yeah. “They shouldn’t be above the law.” works better.

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They add up to “therefore they should be attested”.

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“They are not above the law” is the justification for calling for their arrest.

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So this is the real reason why Trump cancelled his Springfield visit.

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Trump’s scared that Vance’s family will eat Laura Loomer

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I don’t understand. Is Laura Loomer a brand of couch I haven’t heard of?

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Yes. Please don’t research Laura Loomer any further

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I think she’d have more to be worried about with Robert Kennedy around talking to Trump. Trump is so easy to control and that dude needs help.

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If you ever needed to plumb the depths of American bigotry, it’s Trump appearing on stage glad-handing a dog eater and then making up some bullshit about Haitians.

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