British Prime Minister Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler after selling out the Czechs.
Anyone: Russia or China did something fucked up.
lemmy.ml: BUT WHAT ABOUT…!
These people are so black and white, it completely boggles the mind. They live in “X is bad so Y must be good!”
X and Y are both completely fucked and if you can’t see that, then so are you.
You’re making an awful lot of assumptions about what I believe when I haven’t said a word of that.
What is it with you people and just making up what people believe, whole cloth? Guess it’s just easier to argue against someone who’s made of straw and only exists in your head.
You’re right, assumptions were made, though your lack of context for posting that picture definitely lends itself to my narrative. Not refuting anything I said also doesn’t help to destraw yourself.
Please, take this opportunity to clear the air and let us all know that you’re aware of how damaging Chinese and Russian policies are for their people, just like Western capitalism for its people.
Fuck russia. Russia as a geopolitical entity must be destroyed. It’s them or us.
Oligarchy vs the rest of us. It’s happening right where you live too darling.
Tankies in shambles
Why would tankies be in shambles? They love genocide and helping fascists. This is basically a motivational poster for them.
You are being disingenuous lol
You know they hate this picture and get bent out of shape over this historical fact.
Westoid tankie has to ignore many historical facts in order to make his or her “idealogy” work “logically”
Conservatism has always been a plague of death. It is long overdue for a cure.
Both the Marxists in the Soviet Union and the Nazis in Germany tore down their countries and rebuild them in accordance to their tyrannical ideologies. It’s a stretch to call regimes that brought radical change conservative when they clearly not for preserving anything from the previous regimes.
In both cases, they co-opted popular left-leaning movements to engage conservative voting bases. They combined these popular movements with nationalist conservative ideologies to garner wide appeal amongst conservatives.
After winning, they then used their momentum to tear down institutional checks and balances to make sure they would hold power indefinitely, even if their support started to wane. Conservative support, in both cases, remained strong for many years, resulting in the deaths of millions of innocent non-conservatives.
There can’t really be a cure though, what’s “conservative” is just whatever is on the right wing of a country’s politics at any point in time.
Not quite, IMHO, seeking the imaginary ideal of yesteryear is what conservatism is, everything new is bad. The right wing of any political system is regressive and also looks back to this same imaginary ideal.
The right wing of any political system is regressive
Yes, I completely agree. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t see how you can fix that other than universally disallowing the right wing of politics any influence over decision making, in which case the left will likely fracture in between its most left wing elements and it’s most centre-left elements and the process starts again.
So unless you want endless purging of whatever happens to be on the right wing of your political spectrum, I don’t see what the cure to Conservatism or the right wing is.
7/10 Nazis killed in WWII were at the hands of the Soviets
And 10/10 of the Polish officers and civilians killed at Katyn were at the hands of the Soviets too. There’s no point in defending a regime that did horrific things, just because they happened to kill a lot of people who also did horrific things.
There’s also no point in arguing that “one nation won the war” against anyone in World War 2, the war would’ve been significantly worse and more brutal had almost any of the allied nations not participated.
Without the US lend lease and factories, the Soviets wouldn’t have had a chance, and it would’ve been a much much more brutal battle even if they succeeded. Not to mention the massive amount of work the U.S. put into fighting Japan in the Pacific almost alone.
Without the Soviets the other allies would have had no continental power to distract the Germans, and North Africa would likely have fallen along with the UK.
Without the UK, the Axis would’ve had a much much easier time navigating waterways and trading with the world, not always having the possibility of being harassed from one of the UK’s colonial ports or airports. Not to mention the constant threat of invasion from the sea and the opening of a second front that the UK provided.
There’s others I won’t even mention because it would take too long like the invaluable support of India and China without which Japan would’ve dominated Asia, and the people of Africa and South America who also contributed.
There’s literally no way a non-propagandizing historian could put the victory solely on any of the Allied nations, each and every one was completely indispensable