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I’m not sure this is going to be any more effective than the original (ineffective) ban. Maybe I’m biased because I don’t like carrying bags around so I am accumulating more and more “reusable” bags that I never reuse.

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Tons of places haven’t had plastic bags for years. It’s definitely effective.

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According to the article, the use of plastic for bags has actually gone up despite the ban.

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The plastic bags you could get at Ralphs are thick. So thick I bring them back to CO and use them as reusable bags in my work truck, trash bags for the trail, etc. I don’t have a scale that could measure the difference but it must be 6-8x as much plastic per bag.

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The reason it went up since the 2014 law is because of a massive, gaping loophole. It was written with plastic industry bullshit baked in, and now it’s being taken out.

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12 points

Everyone were I live has used cloth or paper bags for at least the past five years. The only places that have plastic bags are corner stores.

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Whole Foods has been using paper bags for years. And they don’t charge for them either.

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10 points

it just requires a minimal amount of effort and foresight. you can do it.

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But what if I’m extremely stupid?

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We tried that. It failed.

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When was that? I remember the vote where it was an option and it didn’t win. Instead we got the joys of paying $0.10 per bag and thicker bags.

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19 points

But is bringing your own bags with you so hard? My parents are too old remember that but I never had an issue with it.

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But is bringing your own bags with you so hard?

I have ADHD so yeah, sometimes. I even keep them in my car and often forget to bring them inside to actually use 'em 😩

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Yes it is too hard for people. I almost never see people bring their own bags in my small town of California.

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Grocery bags were banned. Durable “reusable” plastic bags were mandated and we were expected to re-use those bags and return them to the store. The reality is that we use them just like the old bags and just fork over the extra 10 cents for every visit.

This article is claiming the exact same thing, replacing the current “re-usable” bags with more durable “re-usable” bags that we will likely now pay 20 cents for and be expected to re-use them at the store.

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That sounds like a problem that you’re inflicting on yourself then.

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13 points

Thank you!

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Yeah np; VOA is I feel overall pretty tame as national propaganda outlets go, but it’s nonetheless expressly conceived of and funded as a propaganda outlet, so that’s not much of a compliment.

Plus, a news agency article from its own website tends to have a better shelf life than syndicated versions of that article.

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VOA seems very factual and accurate in their reporting. Their bias exists in that they’ll never report on something that doesn’t align with US interests.

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Crafty people: If you don’t already, you should learn about plarn, aka yarn made from cut up disposable plastic shopping bags.

My wife makes it and turns it into forever bags.

https://warpedfibers.com/plastic-bag-yarn/

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I’m sorry.
If you want to make them, for the sake of making them. As an art project or something, that’s fine I guess.
But as a functional blanket? That seems like the worst thing I can imagine.

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Ok? First of all, the site says that it uses plarn for part of the weaving. Secondly, you don’t have weave with it or make a blanket. As I said, my wife knits them into forever bags.

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There was a plastic bag ban here* in my state. Still is technically. The only problem is the idiots who shoved this through left exceptions/loopholes that allowed basically every technically rural place here able to keep using plastic bags as long as they’re “reusable” which basically just made much thicker plastic bags be the norm. It’s fucking stupid and we need to forever go back to paper.

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Nah, fabric. And more grocery stores but smaller and locally owned so people don’t need to do a bunch of shopping at once. And proper pay and worker protections and price controls so people can afford to have time to shop

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