Personally, I don’t* but I was curious what others think.

*some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

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I don’t think it’s cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.

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Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.

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gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.

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Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?

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What if I want my raw spam musubi extra crunchy?

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I think of a chef as a “preparer of food” not necessarily “food cooker”

So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.

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chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.

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They still have to cook the rice.

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Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren’t cooked any more than salads or burritos. They’re assembled or prepared.

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You’re ignoring the chemical process in ceviche.

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Ceviche is said to be “cooked” with acid, even if that’s not the most accurate term. And most forms of sushi are made with cooked rice, at minimum, and not uncommonly with other cooked ingredients. So those things kind of muddy the waters for your point. But a clearer example may be something like beef tartare, a garden salad with a vinegarette, or sashimi. Those things are “prepared”, not cooked, because no cooking is involved in their making. Cooking is specifically the preparation of food utilizing heat. Chefs prepare plenty of dishes that do not involve the act of cooking.

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The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.

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I agree - and it specifically isn’t doing so through an application of heat.

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Just because it’s preparing food and not cooking doesn’t mean that it is lesser.

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6 points

Beenut putter?

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Lol whoops. I’m leaving it.

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1 point

Butter, peanutbutter and jelly?

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Butter, Peanut butter, and Just a little more peanut butter

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2 points

What if I microwave it?

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You can cook with a microwave, but if you’re just reheating something that’s not cooking.

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Which means that it might be, depending on the sandwich. For example, you cook a panini or grilled cheese.

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What about using my George Foreman grill?

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What matters is the loaf. Use the upper cut

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How much needs to be heated? If I toast the bread but not the other ingredients, then clearly I did cook by that definition, yeah?

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No, it’s food preparation but nothing is being cooked.

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Depends on your start point. You can bake your own bread, cook/combine your own condiments, and roast/cure your own meats.

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You can grow your wheat, and raise pigs, but to really make it from scratch, first you need to create the universe.

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Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.

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Some go as far as saying cooking requires a chemical change, else youre just heating

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Yeah - an application of heat to create a chemical change. You’re correct there. My answer was incomplete.

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Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let’s say you’ve just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?

My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.

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23 points

No one ever says “I’m cooking a sandwich”

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Maybe a panini.

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True, but, turn that into ‘I’m cooking up a sandwich’, and now the phrase potentially expands its domain to basically mean any kind of food preparation.

The addition if ‘up’ makes it less literal, more jovial and less bounded.

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True, but, turn that into ‘I’m cooking up a sandwich’, and now the phrase potentially expands its domain to basically mean any kind of food preparation.

The phrase expands into any preparation or invention, even ones that clearly do not have anything to do with cooking. e.g. “I’m cooking up a plan to deal with this.”

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