No one even thought to ask about it in the debate.
ITT: people resistant to the idea that what the judicial branch is doing is seriously wrong.
It’s not absolute but… Yeah.
Because nobody’s taken advantage of it. It was written for trump. This meme will age like roadkill.
Oh, good. I’m sure that we’ll never have another corrupt president, so there’s absolutely no need to worry!
I don’t care how the meme ages. If people get to see the consequences they’re the ones who should have gave a shit.
As a European: I give a shit, but that tanker of a shitshow is barreling down like there’s no tomorrow.
No one cares because no one really doubted that the immunity for official acts was going to be a thing.
The sneaky part that is problematic was making official communication channels inadmissible even for non official acts. That part is what buried the jan 6th trial for Trump, because it relied on communications through official channels as evidence.
Hopefully Harris will clean the shit from the court not too long after she gets in
That’s a giant hope. Harris/Biden know they don’t have the means to undo this. It’s going to come down to the people giving them the means. Where we are now, when everyone can be so easily polarized by the range of 100,000 different things they are upset about won’t allow it.
We have to go back to basics here.
Starting with We the people. No we don’t have to reinvent it but to start evaluating it, as a nation, we will make those who hide behind it terrified enough to make changes.
It’s a scary proposition. To allow this elclectorate shape our future. At the end of the day they will one way or another. I might be in the last generation that can ride the status quo into the sunset. I dont want that for those that come after. I say give the wheel early. Let them steer us to the future they want.
I think everyone is waiting to see how the “official duties” part shakes out.
It doesn’t matter. You act as though that will temper the ruling but really it is an escape hatch if a Democrat trys to use it. Kings aren’t kings just because the people go along with it. Nobility build the infrastructure then fight over who gets the hot seat.
I agree that the ruling creates a major issue but the way you’re talking makes it seem like you don’t recognize that presidents have always (certainly in our lifetimes) been above the law. That was clearly not the intent of the founding fathers but it is also clear that the modern entity we call the US government never had any intention of handling things in a different way. I’m not sure exactly when we crossed that line but it was well before this Supreme Court ruling, that much is certain.
You are way down playing what this means. They are telegraphing their entire intent. Trump and his GOP are not run of the mill. It’s almost painful to have to spell this out again and again.
The stance you’re are taking is exactly how this power grab by the courts becomes tolerated. They are taking power from the people and claiming it as their own. This can’t be understated.