Well that took a while but its finally here.

But also incoming Moon channel video now

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While I agree, Nintendo as a corporate entity sucks major balls, “nothing of value in at least a decade” is patently false.

  • One of the best selling consoles of all time that also signalled a hardware paradigm shift to popularize hybrid consoles/handhelds
  • BOTW
  • TOTK
  • Mario Odyssey
  • Metroid Dread
  • Smash Ultimate
  • Fire Emblem
  • Xenoblade

Like, yuzu wouldn’t have been such a smash hit if Nintendo was releasing value-less titles.

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While I agree, its still his opinion if Nintendo did anything of value. BTW I played Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom this year on Yuzu. And I’m proud of it. Great games, although with big problems. I would add Super Mario Maker 2 and Super Mario Wonder to the list, and maybe Bayonetta 3, Lugi’s Mansion 3, Splatoon 3, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and probably a few more.

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I agree. The game development side of Nintendo are top notch, and care a lot about quality game design, fun, replayability, all the good stuff. These people do good work.

But the corporate/legal side of Nintendo, they are indeed raging assholes.

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If you beleive them, as far as I recall, Valve has said that they were working on the Steam Deck before the switch was revealed.

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This might shock you, but Nintendo was also working on the Switch before it was revealed

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I will pirate anything from them that looks even remotely interesting. But I’ve never given them a cent and I sure as hell never will.

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I don’t get it. I mean I get it because it’s Ninty, but I don’t get why now?

Has there been something in a major new feature update that has finally tipped the scales into clearly taking the piss, or have the legal team at Big N finally seen their erections subside after the game’s launch and only now can move enough to do something about it?

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My best guess: whatever they’re filing now was so exhaustively researched that it took months to prepare the strongest case they’re able to make, possibly delayed by the lawyers working on several other cases. Plus waiting until sales have dried up can maximize damages.

Another possibility is that Nintendo/TPC is planning to make some big Pokémon announcements soon and wants to target this shortly before their own new games to reduce competition. Palworld might seem like more of a threat to the execs now that Pokémon is nearing a major release than it was in the middle of a long drought for the series.

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Considering they’re going for patent infringement and not copyright infringement, it’s possible it just took this long for Nintendo’s legal department to find something even remotely tangible that they could sue over. And since they haven’t said what patents Palworld infringes on, I have to assume whatever it is, is very flimsy.

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Despite their reputation for being quick, my opinion is that Nintendo does often take their time. Most of the things they take down do exist for months or years (and also follow the same format of a ROM hack that got a lot of attention so easy copy paste). My assumption is they’re just dotting their i’s and crossing their t’s and patent is just what they think they’ll have the best chance at winning.

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Going back to Yuzu, Nintendo was in Discord and all over the place monitoring and collecting evidence even since Tears of the Kingdom launch. It took almost a year before the final attack with overwhelming number and secured evidence. Nintendo is not fucking around and is serious, that’s for sure. So if Nintendo attacks, they often have a point or (legal) reason to.

That’s why I’m so curious in this case. I would hope that Nintendo being (legally) wrong for once.

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If corporations are to be considered people they should have to have shins or something to kick them in!

Am tired of hearing about Nintendo attacking everyone who even thinks about fun outside of their discrete products.

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Ninty? I know by context it means Nintendo, but why Ninty? Is there any connection this specific abbreviation is used here?

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Changed it 🤷 I’ve no idea why I decided to abbreviate there at all.

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The claim says patent claim. This isn’t design related then. What is the claim then? Appearance of monsters doesn’t make a patent case.

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Nor the whole idea of capturing opponents to raise them and make them fight for you. That’s from 1987 already, from the Shin Megami Tensei series; it predates Pokemon by a fair bit.

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Except they filed a patent for exactly that recently, so I’m guessing it is for the capture mechanics. It shouldn’t pass muster in that case, but Japanese courts be wild (and very pro-Nintendo).

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I gave it a check. If Pocketpair plays it smart they can make Nintendo look like a herd of muppets in the court, and even potentially acting on bad faith. Pocketpair might also simply change a few elements of its own game through an update, much like PvZ replacing Michael Jackson zombie with a disco zombie.

I’m not even sure how much patents apply to games.

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Claiming “multiple patent rights” without mentioning smells like kafkatrapping.

I think that Nintendo’s delayed reaction was to gauge how much money it could get from bullying Pocketpair to accept some unfavourable settlement outside the court; if too little the costs would be too high to bother, considering the risk, but now that Palworld sold a bazillion it’s more profitable to do so. It might actually backfire if Palworld decides to go through the whole thing, I don’t know how Japanese law works in this regard but if Nintendo loses this certainly won’t look good for them, and even if they win it might be a pyrrhic victory.

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Claiming “multiple patent rights” without mentioning smells like kafkatrapping.

No, this is normal. If there is a case, then it needs to be handled in the court first.

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Good catch - you’re right.

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Good catch

hehehe

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