Amber Nicole Thurman’s death from an infection in 2022 is believed to be the first confirmed maternal fatality linked to post-Roe bans.
Reproductive justice advocates have been warning for more than two years that the end of Roe v. Wade would lead to surge in maternal mortality among patients denied abortion care—and that the increase was likely to be greatest among low-income women of color. Now, a new report by ProPublica has uncovered the first such verified death. A 28-year-old medical assistant and Black single mother in Georgia died from a severe infection after a hospital delayed a routine medical procedure that had been outlawed under that state’s six-week abortion ban.
Amber Nicole Thurman’s death, in August 2022, was officially deemed “preventable” by a state committee tasked with reviewing pregnancy-related deaths. Thurman’s case is the first time a preventable abortion-related death has come to public attention since the Supreme Court overturned Roe, ProPublica’s Kavitha Surana reported.
Now, “we actually have the substantiated proof of something we already knew—that abortion bans kill people,” said Mini Timmaraju, president of the abortion-rights group Reproductive Freedom for All, during a call with media. “It cannot go on.”
I am religious. I like having a non-scientific justification for my non-empircal beliefs.
I think you have an issue with people using religion as a shield for their crappy behavior. Controlling someone else is vile, using your religion to do it is unbelievablely cruel.
Similar to cops, there’s gonna be big acab type “all religious are assholes” soon if the good apples don’t start taking care of the bad apples.
Similar to cops, there’s gonna be big acab type “all religious are assholes” soon if the good apples don’t start taking care of the bad apples.
There are a lot of good religious people out there, from many religions, who aren’t forcing their way of life on others, who spend their time trying to be loving and care for their neighbor. What precisely they’re supposed to do about the “bad apples” of religious people isn’t very clear. I can’t exactly report the Southern Baptist Church to Internal Religious Affairs.
I am not responsible for the views of other religious people. I’m responsible for my own views. I can argue with those who disagree with me, but I cannot force them to stop being controlling assholes.
Maybe, just maybe, making assumptions about people based on associations they may not actually have is a bad idea. Maybe the world is more complicated than that.
Unfortunately the good apples and bad apples are generally in entirely different barrels (churches), so the good apples don’t have much chance to influence the bad ones
Humans have a right to their thoughts and feelings including the weird ones. We have to protect that right. What they do not have a right to is control over anyone else on the basis of that. That is the problem here.
The carceral side of the mental health system still exists and still hurts a lot of people, mostly poor and marginalized ones. People still die and get abused and lose their rights because of it. So it’s not a thing to wish for the expansion of.
Your body, their choice.
Just look at what pharma had gotten away with over the last four years. “Undergo this medical procedure or kiss your civil liberties goodbye!”
“Inject this experimental substance (with known severe side effects) into your body or lose your job”
I was honestly expecting to receive a lemmy flavored beatdown for that comment.
I am of the persuasion that even if we consider the products to be safe and tested, coercion is still the wrong way to go about it.
I did not reject the pharma shots because it was allegedly unsafe or experimental, but because I don’t believe the threat it claims to prevent against represents a substantial enough risk to warrant all the destructive measures we’ve all been forced to endure.
Hey, look, it’s Typhoid Mary COVID Larry, who wants all the privileges of society yet none of the responsibilities. If you don’t want to uphold the social contract, I’m okay with it. Get out.
I don’t want anyone to interpret this to mean that I think it was in any way OK that this woman died, but I do want to point out what I see as an objective bias here.
According to the National Libary of Medicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4554338/
108 women died from complications related to legal abortions during a 12 year period between 1998 and 2010, for an average of 9 per year. Where are these stories on the front page?
This is a story that is posted to elicit an emotional reaction rather than a honest attempt to examine whether there is actual recorded medical evidence that more women are dying as a result of this policy.
Edit:
- Post citing scientific data -11.
- “Religious people should be locked in asylums” +10.
Says a lot about this community.
sorry you’re being downvoted, but i support scientific data AND putting religious people in asylums.
I could care less about being downvoted, but it made me realize that even people who claim to be interested in objective truth and facts are no different than the religious people who they mock for ignoring scientific evidence for things like global warming. Everyone just wants to reaffirm what they already believe.
“Still a man, he hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest” -Paul Simon
On the one hand, you have some women dying of complications arising from an elective procedure that they chose to have, based either on medical necessity or other factors. On the other hand you have a woman in need of medical care that she wished to have, and was denied, due to her reproductive autonomy being denied, then dying as a result.
Yet you have a hard time distinguishing what makes these things different?
No, what I have a problem with is using a sample size of 1 as evidence of an epidemic and the perception that no women die from legal abortion procedures.
Also, from the report: “In 20 of the 108 cases, the abortion was performed as a result of a severe medical condition where continuation of the pregnancy threatened the woman’s life.”
I point this out because another misconception is that you can always save the woman’s life with an abortion if it is threatened by the pregnancy.
and the perception that no women die from legal abortion procedures.
I don’t know anyone who has edit: [ever expressed] that perception. Anecdotal I know, but I’m skeptical it’s a common belief among adults of voting age.
using a sample size of 1 as evidence of an epidemic
I don’t see that word, nor any language that conveys that impression in the article.
I do see this:
At least two women in Georgia died after they couldn’t access legal abortions and timely medical care in their state, ProPublica has found. This is one of their stories.
That seems pretty straightforward and unsensationalized to me.
I guess that was God’s plan
It’s god’s will. It was just her time.
/s
