114 points

the original undermines its own message: they are lifting it, even if barely and with difficulty, which implies that those characters are within an order of magnitude or so of literal divine power.

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66 points

I think that’s canonically true for Goku and Hulk

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33 points

Goku vs Jesus debate when

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13 points

Since Goku existed and has always been a Christ figure?

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10 points

Jesus fed the 5000. Goku eats that much every day.

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6 points

So this is the power of God and anime

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24 points

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Worshiping Goku is a one way ticket to the Home For Infinite Losers.

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To be fair, Jesus’ message (some of it, scripture is not univocal) is that divine power is within the grasp of us mere mortals. That everyone who follows him would be able to do miracles like his.

(Apologists suggest he was referring to just the apostles to explain why the rest of us are bound by naturalism, but there are implications that’s not what he meant.)

Note that Gospel Jesus was big on direct evidence.

That said, the cross was made of wood, and Jesus wasn’t the only convict tasked with carrying one. The gravity is in being willing to die for one’s principles which all of these characters would do unflinchingly.

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18 points

Pointing out that Jesus was absolutely not the only person who carried a cross and was crucified is an excellent point. The cartoonist absolutely missing the whole… thing with thos image.

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15 points

Matthew 17:20, NIV He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

I was raised Evangelical and yeah, my parents took that literally.

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11 points

Hell, he wasn’t even the only one carrying his. He stumbled three times and a stranger helped him carry it

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Not necessarily… They are merely within an order of magnitude of the strength required to lift the cross all the way. Buff Jesus might be many leagues more powerful than that, for all we know.

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96 points

Ok as an ex catholic the level of sacreligiosity here is impressive. The cross isn’t the heavy bit, it’s heavy sure, he was tortured to death, but a stranger helped him carry it when he couldn’t carry it alone. The heavy bit was choosing to go be tortured to death for everyone including his killers. It was refusing to use divine power to save himself. The cross? No, a thief, a murderer, and a prophet died on that hill that day, each carried their cross, each died on it.

Protestants are fucking weird.

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26 points

Protestants are fucking weird.

To be fair, transubstantiation.

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12 points

Trans what now?

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3 points

To be fair, I think they cut out the part where a bunch of people meditate in catacombs after ingesting mushrooms caps picked from dead bodies.

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15 points

And as a paragon of good I wouldn’t think Jesus would be so smug about it

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11 points

Not to detect from your final point, but I’m quite sure the point of this super dumb religious meme is the symbolic weight of the cross.

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8 points

If your god’s greatest act is “willingly becoming a murder victim”, you might be in a death cult.

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It’s not protestants, it’s wacko us pseudo Christian sects that are anything but (but that seem to be dominant in the religious landscape in the US).

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2 points

They are, by and large, Protestant Christians.

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5 points

What does Protestants have to do with this?

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3 points

Most of the really out there Christian fundamentalists, the ones eating the brain of the US political system, are derived from the Protestant Reformation (or Anglican, which is sorta to the side of the Reformation). Even the more fundamentalist Catholics in the US have opinions that align to the Protestants around them rather than the Pope. Big Bang and evolution, for example.

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Most of the really out there Christian fundamentalists, the ones eating the brain of the US political system, are derived from the Protestant Reformation (or Anglican, which is sorta to the side of the Reformation). Even the more fundamentalist Catholics in the US have opinions that align to the Protestants around them rather than the Pope. Big Bang and evolution, for example.

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I’m not religious but I live in a protestant (but mostly unreligious) country and it sure seems more sane than Catholics.

Our national church is surprisingly liberal and is welcoming to LGBTQ people for example. The church is also not involved in normal politics. We have specific church elections where members of the church can vote for church shit, but nobody really cares about that.

Catholics are insane though. Why the fuck would anyone trust a homophobic idiot in Rome?

Catholics are the worst of the worst.

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Most of the really out there Christian fundamentalists, the ones eating the brain of the US political system, are derived from the Protestant Reformation (or Anglican, which is sorta to the side of the Reformation). Even the more fundamentalist Catholics in the US have opinions that align to the Protestants around them rather than the Pope. Big Bang and evolution, for example.

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Regarding the original panel: Powerscaling is so dumb. Fine, your imaginary character is stronger than mine. Now, what?

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11 points

Might makes right, obv.

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7 points

Now we do it again with two other characters, because it’s fun. =D

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6 points

Sometimes it’s just fun to write fanfic regardless of who you think is stronger. If the characters have strong motivations good stories are bound to unfold.

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4 points

i like stan lees quote on who would win in a fight x or y

he said “whoever the writer wants to win”

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45 points

OK so I have questions about this cartoon. I get Hulk, Mr Incredible and Goku, but why Mighty Mouse?

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42 points

To appeal to children, which is an important focus of religious propaganda.

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7 points

Need to get the programming in early to make it stick. Especially developing brains can be put into a completely fictional world and their young brains assume it’s reality. The CIA did some fun stuff on this, but religion has hundreds of years of experience with child abuse in all of its forms.

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Pretty sure kids these days are going to be more familiar with Goku and Hulk than Mighty Mouse.

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4 points

Do church leaders know that?

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27 points

Because mice sin too.

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12 points

Curious what sins mice do.

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15 points

Fun fact: all mice are devil worshippers

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5 points

they steal our cheese and goddammit I need that cheese

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5 points

False idols. Lots of gold statues in mouse dens.

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15 points

It’s like they’ve never seen an episode before. He was always lifting up crosses and crucifying Jews.

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9 points

Why would the first three make sense, but not Mighty Mouse?

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4 points

Because he has almost completely faded to obscurity. Most people under 30 probably wouldn’t recognize him at all.

Superman not being one of the characters in this image is also kind of baffling. Unless the artist believes that Superman could bear the cross.

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28 points

In turn, could Jesus lift Mjölnir?

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27 points

Probably. Dude was a prototypical pacifist and would probably use it for carpentry.

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31 points

Nah, the comics make a point that “worthy” is based on Asgardian morals, not Christian. Pacifists couldn’t lift it because Asgardians are expected to be warriors.

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14 points

Darn, today I learned that Mr. Rogers was ready for war.

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7 points

Mfer could drive 9 inch nails with 1 hit

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4 points

After that you’ll have a head like a hole.

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