72 points

Banning people for downvoting posts seems like an overstep of position

Seems like beaver went crazy and jerkface did too. I dont know about you.

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38 points

Banning people for downvoting posts is the most sensitive thing I’ve actually seen on the internet first hand.

And yet they probably still think people dislike them just because they’re vegan 🤷‍♂️

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14 points

This is exactly why non anonymous voting is a big problem for the fediverse

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-45 points

I’m sure you are aware that brigading has been a problem in The Motherland since the very beginning. Now that we have the tools to detect and address such behaviour, are you prepared to say you are categorically against using that information to inform moderation decisions?

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40 points

Downvoting a post ain’t brigading 😂

Is there not an option in Lemmy to make a community private, or exclude it from /all?

That sounds like what you need if you can’t handle general users disagreeing with you.

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27 points

That conveniently ignores what the actual issue was, since if Beaver had replied to the request to discuss those actions with the other mods we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Not consulting with other mods before making COMMUNITY decisions was, to my mind, the main reason for being demoded.

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3 points

This is a common thing happening on Lemmy.

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-7 points

I don’t necessarily agree, if a post is clearly within the guidelines of the community, and the mods consider it a quality post, that person probably doesn’t get the community.

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-20 points

Look buddy, I’m just in this post to circlejerk. If you want to argue, kindly go back to the OP

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60 points

I mean the fact that the 3 of you have a particularly similar aggressive nature and after leaving 1 post all came here to keep up the exact same kind of bitchiness is not helping your argument.

Beaver started banning people for downvoting posts. A fellow mod reached out to Beaver to say that had not been the policy and if they wanted that to be the policy going forward the mods would need to discuss it. Beaver then ignored the request to discuss the new policy that Beaver arbitrarily decided on. The issue here seems to be Beaver, period.

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-46 points

Aggressive? Gasp. BITCHINESS? I am wounded. But I still love you.

Would you care to assay on what justification exists to demod me?

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38 points

Well I’m not a mod and I didn’t demod you, but from my opinion of how it played out A, you immediately jumped to Beavers defense and said you didn’t have a problem banning people for downvoting, B, immediately tried to downplay them not responding to the mod request to discuss that action, C, based on how you’re responding here sound completely unfit to be a mod which should require a certain level of maturity, and of course D the possibility that you’re an alt.

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-21 points

Thanks. Interesting thoughts.

A) is an opinion and it was stated as an opinion, since the post served in place of the discussion that was skipped. I feel justified in sharing my opinion about the direction I want the community to take. I can’t force my views on anyone, and it seems amazingly insecure to respond to that with a unilateral de-mod.

B) was a request for patience and discussion before people started de-modding each other. But okay, let’s call it “downplaying” for the sake of argument. I don’t see how such downplaying amounts to justification to de-mod me.

C) I can’t respond to but I do find it rather uncharitable. If you can give an example, I’d appreciate that. And D) I can never assure someone who wishes to believe otherwise.

When it comes down to it, it sounds like you are saying the other mod was justified in de-modding me because I voiced disagreement with his choices. Plus a bunch of other stuff about me just plain not deserving to be a mod for reasons I admit I don’t grasp; that I’m just intrinsically deserving of being de-modded. Have I got it?

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-5 points

I’m cheering for you.

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48 points

This whole thing keeps delivering

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23 points

I have no skin in this game, and just think the drama is funny.

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-11 points

Get the popcorn with margarine out!

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19 points

Sprinkling in nutritional yeast is the best way to eat popcorn.

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43 points

Are vegans vegan? Watching mods eat each other brings up weird questions for me.

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Fuck, sorry, it was a cheat day. (Eating the rich is still vegan tho btw)

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8 points

Obviously truth… The richer they are, the more they appear to have IQs lower than carrots.

Eat the rich: it’s good for the country AND your health!

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39 points
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All they did was kick a bunch of mods that were harming a community and trying to create drama without even having the balls to discuss openly the reasons they were banning people. The comments about how a moderator that was there for 3 months should have more power than a moderator that had been there for 11 days (despite one of them not having the wellbeing of the community as a priority) is an amazing joke. https://lemmy.world/post/19731457 everyone should read this post and they will quickly understand after reading op and the comments from people like jerkface why this happened. Posting a modlog without context or explanation is acting in pretty bad faith here.

Also, as a community (lemmy as a whole) we should think if we want to keep people like Beaver who moderates 100+ communities, there are a lot of people moderating way more than they can chew and becoming really stupid, as also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world. We really love to be repeating reddits problems.

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100+ communities,

95 of those are inactive.

There are mods on LW who moderate 10 active communities. Even further, any LW admins can virtually mod all of the LW community.

also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world.

Indeed.

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-3 points

I take it that was a swipe at me.

Sorry you feel that way.

I don’t do as much moderation as my co-mods, and that’s by design. All our moderators are active and spread across the globe.

I just happen to be the face of the community.

Also, thanks for being civil. You don’t want to see the DMs mods got. It was brutal.

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