Turns out I have a disc bulge between two of my cervicals and it’s pinching a nerve, which is very very painful and weakening my arm and finger sensitivity.
I’m not here asking for advice, rather to get an idea of what’s down the road for me depending on the type of treatment I’ll end up following. I am seeing a doctor, I have an appointment tomorrow. I also had a CT scan done.
So basically if you’ve had something similar anywhere on your spine I’d appreciate to know about it. Did you recover fully? How long did it take? What treatment did you follow? Did you complement it with anything such as specialized exercises, acupuncture, massage or else?
Several years of pain and ineffective treatments along with wrong diagnosis. After I got c5-c7 fused things felt much better after a year. That was 11 years ago and I continue to not have the constant inescapable pain I had back then. When your muscles never relax because the nerves are frayed and impinged, it’s bad.
It’s a rough surgery, but addressed my problems. I consulted with 3 surgeons before picking one I trusted.
The years of misdiagnosis and useless treatments are the worst. I now have a set of docs that I am literally afraid of losing as these actual listen and dig into the why… The listening! So damned important.
My primary guy is amazing and kept going until we found. I went from age 14 until 35 before finding this guy, and he’s the first to actually believe me.
I almost accidentally killed myself on ibuprofen… Pain so bad I lost track of how much I was taking since I couldn’t sleep and almost killed my liver. Blood pressure spike well into the stroke ranges…
Glad you found a good one who got you fixed up.
usually the physical therapy approach has a plan of care of around 8-12 weeks, usually 2-3 doctor visits a week, with a set of exercises to be done by the patient in between. for the patients that actually do the exercise homework, it cures around 75% of patients. unfortunately most patients don’t do the homework exercises.
also a large portion of modern western adults don’t get nearly enough exercise in general, and also have really bad ergonomics in work and rest. the way you sit at work, the way you hold your head when using your phone etc. part of treatment can be helping to figure out how you weakening and hurting yourself.
I was one of the people who did my homework exercises, and still do (mostly). It’s worked well enough.
I have 4 bulging discs, pain was insane, found an exceptional physio, did everything prescribed and as close to pain free as u can get now going on 3 years, if I miss even 1 or two days of the rehab exercise I can feel the pain returning. Find a good physiotherapist that really knows muscoskeltal things, and do what they say people!
I went through a severe disc intrusion, 68‰ central spinal compression.
Full treatment was anterior cervical discectomy and fusion, followed by a few years of on/off physical therapies and some follow-up steroidal spinal nerve epidural shots for pain treatments.
I note this is likely a more extreme case than you describe, but it might give insight into potential risks or perhaps unexpected things to look forward to.
My issues went untreated for close to about 20 years after onset of first neuropathic symptoms.
Initial symptoms:
Arms burning/pain from any position angled over shoulder height.
Headaches and neck pain, frequent.
Weakness in left arm and hand.
Later these turned to outright muscle spasm in shoulders and neck. Everything became more painful.
Started losing reliable use of left hand and would lose balance and use of left foot. Lots of aching pain in left thigh.
This was around time of diagnosis, consider baseline for me.
I attempted many months of various physical therapy and drug treatments. Some stalled things getting worse, none resolved things. Important to note, I had nerve damage by this time to the central canal.
A neurosurgeon performed a Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion, removing the bad disc layer and using a structure to bond the associated spinal bones C5 and C6 together, including a titanium plate and 2 screws.
I woke up in the recovery feeling better than I had in literal years.
That said, this surgery took place in 2016. I’m still recovering from the nerve damage and muscle death caused my the initial injury.
From the immediate pressure release, I was back to my baseline function within just a few weeks. Surgery related stuff resolved quickly for me.
I slept better than the previous 20 years. Absolutely worth it for me.
I mainly needed physical therapy exercises to keep the neck and shoulder areas stretching out since the muscle trauma can cause tightening.
Since that time, I’m still recovering from the associated nerve damage from the initial compression, but it’s still an amazing night and day improvement.
Aside from the main surgery itself, the things that made the biggest differences for me:
Steroid epidurals: neuro anaesthesiologists can isolate areas inflamed in the region and can target painkillers and steroids to hugely improve many symptoms, often permanently. Not simplest, but easier than surgery and has also helped me with some associated shoulder stenosis greatly. Takes pressure off nerve damage to allow healing and pain relief.
Tizanidine: prescription muscle relaxer. This one functions a bit different than Robaxin / Soma / Valium, and was a life saver for years before they identified the stenosis itself. It was the only relief for the tightness or cramping I’d experience in neck, shoulders, left thigh and calves.
Swimming and cycling: done in low intensity, these have been the most successful exercises at rebuilding the muscle deterioration in my central and lower back. I use a pedal-assist style ebike that let’s me focus the work based on pace and heart rate, with it taking the brunt of harder hills.
Stretches!!! While the strength stuff from PT matters, the stretching stuff matters 10000x more! Needed to work with the therapist to figure stuff that wasn’t in the books etc… Strange angles to isolate the areas specific to my injury. Once we dialed in what I should try to feel from a good stretch, I’ve been able to catch the bad stuff as it starts early pretty often.
Good luck on your treatment, whatever you choose. I hope you find real relief.
Feel free to DM me if you have specific questions or if I can help. This is a lot to digest, and I’m happy to offer clarity.
Thanks for sharing this! Those images look very painful. Was this caused by an injury I gather? Or was it just degenerative?
Also thanks for placing an emphasis on the stretching. I typically don’t see the benefits from stretching unless I’ve done some hardcore workouts or something. Will keep in mind.
My doctor and I suspect a childhood injury initially, but absolutely degenerative over time after the fact. My symptoms had largely been just pain for most of my life, but 2014-2016 saw them start to affect walking and hand use.
The thought was that youth masked things, but middle age caught me 😄
L5-S1 disc protrusion.
Happened 4 years ago. Constant pain 24/7, unbearably so when I stand. Spent a year unable to walk, got surgery, could stand/walk for a hour-ish these last few years but had a reinjruy when I pushed myself. Now even with drugs the lowest my pain gets is a 5, walking to bathroom gets me to 9. Picking up my wheelchair on monday, hoping for a new surgery but idk. Just trying to cope day by day now.
So, yeah. Here’s hoping your injury isn’t as bad. ♥
Took about 3 months. Mine was 2 disc bulges pinched a nerve that ran down my leg. At first The whole front of my left thigh felt like a big steam burn. The area got smaller slowly and by 3 months it was just a thin line, about a finger width from the top front of my thigh to knee that is just numb to this day.
The pain in my spine was roughly along the same time line.
The treatment I had was just over the counter pain medicine and then physical therapy to strengthen muscles around the area, apparently more muscle makes it less likely to compress and pinch a nerve again.
Yup, strengthening the back muscles is the most important part. I got rid of my lower back pain by sitting like this for half an hour (sometimes more) after I wake up: https://lowbackpainprogram.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/how-to-sit-to-relieve-back-pain.jpg
At the start it’s a bit hard before the necessary muscles toughen up, but after a couple of days it’s no problem at all and that sitting pose is quite enjoyable. Thats the only lower back strengthening I do daily and for the past six months I feel the best I felt since I injured my lower back so I highly recommend it.
Switch sides every so often. When I start in the morning I can do about 5 mins on one side, but after a couple of switches I can stay like that for 30 mins. When you don’t feel comfortable switch.
So if the knee is still numb- you didn’t recover fully, is that correct? Was this recent or a long time ago?
Will keep in mind the muscle strengthening, I’m sure I’ll get a referral for a physiotherapist at some point.
At least for me, even though I’ve recovered full movement and only have minor to moderate pain after activities which stress the area - the pinched nerve was damaged for long enough that I will have surface numbness on parts of my leg for the rest of my life.
I don’t know if you’re the same person using a different account, but, for how long was the nerve damaged so that it was unrecoverable? Days, weeks, months?
