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This is the most damaging part of Project 2025 IMO. No more experts working federal jobs: just yes men. Trump or whoever says, “Fuck the trees!” and they ask “How hard do you want it fucked?”

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My dad has said since I was a kid that the secret to US political stability was the professional bureaucracy keeping everything running no matter who was in charge.

The really bad part is that once it’s fucked it is exceptionally hard to un-fuck it. The people who leave find other work or retire and there is no private sector equivalent so you just lose all the expertise. This plan will cripple our country for a generation if it’s allowed to come to fruition.

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I feel like this is just the next level of what Reagan did to cripple the government. You make it so they can’t do their job effectively then use the fact that it’s not efficient anymore as the reason to get rid of it all.

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Nah, it’s way worse. It will add a thick layer of corruption to the government and we would basically become like Russia. You will need to grease hands to get anything done, bad or good.

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2 points

It definitely started with Reagan.

While he didn’t originate the expression he did go on TV to quip “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”

Which is such a deeply stupid thing to say, but it perfectly characterized Reagan’s animosity towards the bureaucracy that makes our country function. He did immense damage to that bureaucracy in his tenure, politicizing department heads that had previously been professionals, crippling useful programs like welfare and greenlighting wasteful ones like Star Wars. Conservatives are eager to make the government as ineffective as they claim it to be.

Project 2025 will be this and so much worse, but this trend really took off with Reagan.

Just add it to the pile of reasons why that man’s grave should be spit upon.

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29 points

I was trying to be funny…

https://lemmy.ca/comment/10331686

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20 points

Late stage capitalism has murdered satire.

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22 points

The amount of destruction logging causes here in Oregon is sickening. Just came back from the coast and where hundreds of acres of beautiful trees stood is now a desolate scar.

I get that we have an addiction to wood products, but there has to be a better way. All you see are patches of land that look like Calvin’s head when Hobbes cuts his hair, and monoculture “reforestation” efforts that ignore the amount of nutrition and fungal/floral/animal diversity that have been removed/destroyed. It just sucks. It reminds me of Costa Rica. I just hope we can choose, like much of Costa Rica, to try and embrace conservation and make an industry around that instead.

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Can’t speak to where that wood is going, but the addiction to profiting from the “green” wood pellets to fuel power plants worldwide is why a lot is being taken. And the ironic part is that wood pellet burning contributes more net carbon emissions into the air than the coal it replaced. But it’s “renewable”. Except it takes time to regrow trees, and we don’t have time anymore.

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Also from Oregon and unless I’m mistaken we’re one of the better states at atleast trying to be more renewable about it. I thought I remember learning as a kid we had laws about having to plant multiple trees for every tree you chop down. Not sure if those are still around or how strong they are but I feel like we at least treat the environment better than a lot of other states.

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Logging is needed as long as its done the right way. Clear cutting is rarely the right way. More thinning is needed in much of the federal lands in the west, or prescribed burning. If not, forest fires will continue to get worse.

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22 points

Project 2025 is like a 4th graders playbook.

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5 points

Well, it’s for the Forth Reich so that tracks.

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It’s like conservatives heard the “too many trees close together” part about our wild fire problem, then proceeded to stop listening to anything else scientists had to say on the topic.

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