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Back when Obama made it where you couldn’t be evicted and bailed out the auto industry, I had a friend that drove a car hauler. He wasn’t paying his house payment and lived for free for a year, and only had a job because of the bailout. He talked mad shit about the bailout and about people living and not paying their rent. This is republikkklown logic. I was blown away and said to him, he wouldn’t have a job or a place to live if it wasn’t for that. He said he’d live somewhere else and get a different job.

Since then, he lives with his wife and child in his mom’s house with a shit job and complains about people being on welfare. They don’t get it.

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If there’s any way they can punch down instead of address their own issues they’ll take it. It’s why they resort to going after made up nonsense or the most vulnerable.

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This is happening right now in Germany. In two of our 16 federal states, the fascist party got around 30% of votes through fear mongering and propaganda. In one of the states, all of the remaining parties would be needed to create a functionable government with a majority, containing the whole spectrum from left to right. I am not sure about the future of this state.

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So that one state is a minority government? If it weren’t for the fact the right is just objectively wrong about literally everything I actually prefer a setup where no one party has a majority. Majorities mean that the ruling party can just ignore everyone else and huge numbers of people just have effectively zero representation.

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16 points

Typical. Everyone else is an asshole, but me.

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Yeah, but he deserved that, unlike those lazy librulz.

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98 points

“I’m using affordable care act! I don’t want Obamacare!”

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“I’ve been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No. No.”

Actor Craig T Nelson on how the government never helped him.

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So help me there was some big deal right wing personality who talked about how the government shouldn’t subsidize education by saying that when he was a kid he wanted an education so he… went down to the public library and read books there. Not a hint of irony. Can’t remember exactly who it was, but the dissonance stuck with me.

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If anyone doesn’t know, this is an actual quote from a town hall meeting in '09 when the ACA was on everyone’s mind.

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I literally knew a girl who said this. She truly had no idea that they were the same thing, but rattled on about wanting it gone while benefiting from it.

I also knew an older woman who hated Obama and said “he’s arrogant for naming that after himself.” She didn’t believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

They truly just repeat bullshit until it sticks, and it usually works on the people who don’t bother to diversify their information sources. It’s so goddamn frustrating.

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She didn’t believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

That can’t be true, because I’ve heard it called Obamacare 30 times. Everyone knows it!

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6 points

“Everyone says so”

It’s like an introduction to fallacies in a freshman year philosophy class.

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69 points

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires…

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Te only reason they’re not a millionaire yet is because of all the illegal immigrants and minorities taking all the jobs…probably

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55 points

“Social Security’s great for the old folks, but there’s no way it’ll be around when we’re old”

Votes for the guy trying to destroy social security.

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I mean, technically that’s correct, if they keep voting for the guy trying to destroy social security lol

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Ronald Reagan was cutting advertising telling people that Social Security was going to go bankrupt in a generation back in 1961.

Then he took office in 1980 (after he’d predicted bankruptcy) on the position and “fixed” SS by raising taxes on low income Americans and gutting their benefits. But the subsequent multi-trillion dollar trust fund didn’t satisfy SS scalds. They still insisted it was going bankrupt, so Republicans raised taxes and gutted benefits again under Clinton and Gingrich, while introducing alternative privatized savings programs (401k, IRA, etc).

But that still didn’t satisfy scalds. They tried to privatize the program in 2005 under Bush Jr. That failed, but we still got an earful about how SS was going to fail in the next 20 years if we didn’t do something. So then Obama tried to pass another round of cuts and tax hikes in 2013, but Republicans killed that too. So then Trump claimed we were headed to a Fiscal Cliff in 2017, and tried to privatize SS, but Republicans refused to pass that either.

At this point, we’ve passed repeated deadlines under which SS was supposedly going to fail. The 1970s, the 1980s, the 2000s, the 2020s… We’re still waiting on the Big Cliff in 2037, but since COVID killed several million people far sooner than expected, that’s thrown the math of significantly.

I anticipate we will continue to hear people predicting the end of SS until Congress finally finds the majority they need to kill it.

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See here’s what I’m wondering, if they are so easy to manipulate, why can’t the left just manipulate them into voting democrat?

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They’re easy to manipulate if you play off their basic tribal fears and religious bigotry. The Democrats are far from a perfect party but they at the very least aren’t openly bigots.

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They do sometimes but a lot of the time Democrats don’t use the same tactics or target that demographic.

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Because honesty and integrity matter for society. We’re trying to create a better world, not replace the Republicans with Democrats who behave just as badly but have a different name.

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