53 points

Holy shit this is hard to watch.

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I hear you. All you hear about is how incoherent Biden is… Bullshit. He comes across as articulate and knowledgeable here. Trump hasn’t said anything at all yet. He just keeps spouting idiotic generalizations about how bad the state of the country is without any examples or proof.

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Calling Biden articulate is being incredibly generous. I mean, what on earth was he trying to communicate here?

Overall, Biden put in a very lackluster, unconvincing performance while Trump did his usual schtick of rambling off topic, lying through his teeth, and refusing to answer any questions on policy. The whole thing was a shambles.

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24 points

Don’t forget the oughtright lies.

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17 points

No, it’s hard to watch because Biden needs to clear his throat and keeps drifting off.

Trump keeps not answering questions and lying and dodging.

It’s all around pathetic.

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28 points

One guy is slightly hoarse.

The other is a delusional fascist.

So basically both sides the same.

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I hear you. All you hear about is how incoherent Biden is… Bullshit

During a response to a question about abortion, Biden mentioned, seemingly out of nowhere, a young woman who was recently murdered by an immigrant — an apparent reference to a 12-year-old Houston girl who was strangled to death, allegedly by two Venezuelan men who entered the country illegally.

The connection to abortion was unclear.

https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates

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4 points

I tried, twice. Fuck it, it’s just unbearable.

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3 points

Didn’t they say there would be live fact checking?

Sigh.

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3 points

It might be live on the CNN site? I’m watching the PBS stream on Youtube since the CNN embed video refuses to load and kept crapping out.

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Q: Will you accept the results of the election, regardless of who wins?

Trump: “…and all they want to talk about is a relatively small number of people who went to the capitol”

So far, he’s twice refused to answer the question.

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42 points

biden sounds like shit, but hes got all the right words. hes made a few mistakes hes quickly fixed, but no giant mistakes and lots of details.

trump is doin what trump does… throw a wall of lies loudly

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25 points

I don’t know, I’m for sure voting Biden, but I can’t say he’s doing great. He’s doing a little better when he’s getting riled, but he sounds old - more than three years older than Trump.

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agreed, but if you imagine those words in print, its very obvious biden knows whats hes talking about.

the morals of an alley cat!

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15 points

Oh, for sure. And I’ve worked with enough really sharp older people to know their words can get flubbed up when they’re on the spot when even though their brains are sharp.

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15 points

It’s been shown the office ages you. But not Trump because he never took the office seriously.

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Yep, agreed. Trump doesn’t take anything seriously except bilking anyone he can.

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35 points

Is there a video on how to unsee the debate?

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“Their taking Black jobs, and their taking Hispanic jobs …”

“What exactly is a Black or Hispanic job Mr. Trump?” should have been the follow up on that one.

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13 points

He’s just adding “black” to his earlier immigrant fear mongering spiel. He spewed the exact same thing to an earlier question, but he just added “black” jobs and “Hispanic” jobs to that version.

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I think it’s a bit of a dog whistle as well.

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Someone on his staff told him he needs to appeal to black and Hispanic voters. So his usual rhetoric changes from “They’re coming here and stealing American jobs!” to “They’re coming here and stealing Black jobs and Hispanic jobs!”

This is the maximum level of nuance Trump can handle.

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