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I’ll bet this would have made a supersonic man out of someone.

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One of those moves never miss. One only has a 55 percent hit rate.

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Buncha haters! If I were as rich as her I’d take a private flight to 7-11 down the street if I could. I would take a flight to another country just to eat dinner and come back.

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Private jets used by the ultra-rich and boiling us alive. We are the frog in the pan and climate change deniers can’t tell that the temperatures are rising, even though scientists are screaming at them.

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Yeah that .9% of all CO2 emissions is really the reason. You should probably also stop using phones and computers and electricity. Did you know factories that produce most of the things you use on a daily basis create more pollution than private jets. Boiling us alive lol.

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It’s low-hanging fruit.

We can cut nearly a percent from asking 1:1,000 people not to use their private jets.

In 4 hours a private jet introduces as much CO2 as the average person does from all sources in a year.

By banning private air travel we can reduce carbon emissions dramatically with virtually no social cost.

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I like the layout of this house.

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I think I’m out of the loop here… What does Taylor swift have to do with an airplane?

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I thought that loop was done months ago. But she did use her jet to go to the other side of a city to avoid traffic

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An overlooked part of that article.

it is unclear if she was personally traveling to St. Louis, where part of her extended family originally hails, or if the flights were for maintenance or testing.

Though, reading on from there, her trying to stop people from tracking her flights through lawsuits is just as bullshit as Musk trying to shut down the kid who was tracking his private jet flights. It’s public data and they chose to be public figures. They can both suck it up and deal with the consequences.

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She’s starting to gain a lot of political influence with young liberal voters, so conservatives are latching on to anything they can find to try to discredit her with them. The fact that she used a private jet to travel seems to be the only dirt they can find on her.

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While daddy Musk does probably just as much or more private plane travel, while also trying to publicly go after the guy tracking his jet that is public information…

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For what it’s worth it’s definitely not just conservatives. While I think she’s doing a lot of good compared to others in her wealth bracket, that wealth bracket still should not exist, and anyone in it is a problem.

I can acknowledge that she pays better than most other entertainers. I can acknowledge that she’s pushing back against a lot of the BS that the music industry is pedaling lately. I can acknowledge that she does a lot of philanthropy.

I can also acknowledge that she’s acquired an inhuman amount of money, which necessarily requires perpetuating suffering. I can acknowledge that she’s absolutely a part of the environment problem. All of these things can be true at the same time.

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All of these things can be true at the same time.

Absolutely true: I’m also far-Left, and am a scientist working in the sustainability field.

I know I have complicated views on this (shaming her specifically), mostly because there’s not the same number of posts shaming CEOs and others making even worse choices.

The way I process it would be as if a major new corporation had a crime segment running nightly, but only showed young Black men who were arrested for violent crimes. Sure, it’s not technically incorrect - since they were each arrested - but it’s misleading in a way that should be examined, and people would rightly question why they’re not showing other folks doing the same things.

To be clear - I’m not equating the folks who share or make these memes with racists, but I am using it as an extreme example of ways in which outsized attention to certain celebrities/public figures can come across. I laughed at this and other memes, but I think it’s worth examining why we can name and shame Swift, but not CEOs and others who are more fundamentally responsible for inequities and climate destruction. I’m way-overanalyzing a meme here, since name recognition is doing most of the work (who would click on a meme with the name of some CEO they don’t recognize, versus Swift?), but I do think we could/should do more to drag some of the true ghouls out there into the light and start mocking them, in addition to the folks normally raked over the coals.

Also, I understand that part of that is the hypocrisy, but I’m reminded of what the great Norm MacDonald had to say about hypocrisy:

The comedian Patton Oswalt, he told me “I think the worst part of the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy.” And I disagree. I thought it was the raping. It’s my feeling most rapists are hypocrites. You don’t meet many that go “I like raping and I know it’s not politically correct but, by god” and people go “well, he’s not being a hypocrite and that’s the worst part!”

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I vote left (Canadian), and I think she’s a menace to the environment. There’s this weird logical fallacy going around that if you dislike her, you must be a conservative. SloppyEngineer’s article says she shat out 2.8 tonnes of c02 emissions on this 28 mile trip-- it’s okay to call out hypocrisy, she doesn’t get a pass.

It’s nice that she got the GoP finally care about climate change though, haha.

Edit: numbers

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She’s notorious for using private jets going anywhere, even for short trips that’s perfectly doable by other modes of transportation. There’s even a subreddit dedicated for tracking her jet.

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And she is one of how many ultra rich people out there who have private jets and they use them to go every damn place?

This shit is so damn silly it’s not even funny.

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Nice whataboutism. Just because others do it too doesn’t mean it’s suddenly not bad when Taylor does it. They should all stop, and if she wants to keep being a voice for positive change, she needs to be leading the way.

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Ah hahahaha. Thanks for explaining it to me :)

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