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It’s not ‘fatally shooting’, it’s killing or murdering.

Edit: lowered the bodily functions over the life threshold using a portable metal ejecting tool.

Ok “shot dead”, is that ok?

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Your wording actually gives less info.

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Re: your edit.

Fatally shot literally means “shot dead”, but with a bigger word.

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I know. It’s just that fatally shot is what policemen or “good guys” gets, a bad guy will get the “killed” headline. That’s what I wanted to convey.

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Like how an 18-21 year old woman that murders gets called a woman/adult in the headline, but if she’s the victim, she’s called a girl/young adult. (Similar with guys too.) News author or editor injecting bias (intentional or otherwise) into the article. That’s always annoyed me.

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Fatally means dead.

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We (Americans) will never give up our guns, especially if you are working class.

We should continue to help fund to uphold our 2A rights.

Gun safety and training should be an option for everyone.

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Do you really think Gun Safety Training would have prevented this one?

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Everyone who makes this absurd argument knows it won’t. They just want to keep their stupid toys and don’t care about the lives it costs, so they muddy the waters to delay actual action on preventing these needless deaths.

  • “Just arm and train everyone bro [so we can keep being the problem].”
  • “Just use ‘clean coal’ bro [so we can keep making billions destroying the climate].”
  • “Just make more plastic recycling plants bro [so we can keep littering the environment with mountain ranges’ worth of single-use trash]”.
  • “Just use EVs bro [so we don’t have to reevaluate how fundamentally terrible car-centrism is]”.

Every time there’s a systemic problem in the US, someone shows up to make a proposal that puts a very small band-aid on the problem at best while making it much more deeply entrenched in the long-term and consequently more of a problem (in the above examples, we have respectively more guns and gun culture, more investment put into generating energy via coal, more infrastructure for plastic, and more car infrastructure). Basically, “I don’t want my guns taken away ever, so the solution I’m going to come up with is that everyone has them and so the actually effective solution of restricting them becomes literally impossible.” Their solution doesn’t just not work; it actively causes more deaths while serving their own self-interest.

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What did the 2A solve in the modern days though? Where is that need for a Militia?

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Haven’t needed one yet. Might need one in the next few upcoming years if things keep going as poorly as they have been. The second amendment was intended for citizens to protect themselves from invading forces and malevolent American government alike. We haven’t yet had a desperate enough need to exercise it in such a fashion, so instead it’s merely built up a gun nut culture in America. But it’s there for such times as we find ourselves approaching.

I sincerely, desperately hope it doesn’t come to that. But I’m comforted by the fact that one of the favorite tools of my possible enemy is one that also guarantees I am never defenseless.

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The same could be said about nukes. You hope they’re never needed, but the fact that they’re there helps keep things in check.

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He should’ve started with himself

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In before someone reports this - the person DID kill themselves, therefore this comment isn’t advocating self-harm, so much as “I wish the harm had ONLY been to themselves”

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Yes, thank you

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Can’t put my finger on it, but I feel we have a word for fatally shooting people.

I guess we’re avoiding the word gun in titles now…

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Oh look a redditor.

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TIL reddit is a slur.

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no it isn’t? Spez though, now thats a slur.

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Whoa buddy. Language!

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I’m not a redditor lol. It says reddit wanderer, as I have been wandering since the day RIF stopped working. I have not returned to reddit. Nice try with the ad hominem though

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You unable to see the word “shoot” in the title? I doubt it was a blow dart…erm… oh wait. That’s a gun too!

I don’t think it was a crossbow, or long bow, or a water…damn it. Keep coming back to “gun”.

If you can’t discern that it’s a gun from the title, there’s not much to do.

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A bow isn’t a gun

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I didn’t say it was.

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What term would you use that’s more accurate than ‘fatally shoots’? The term ‘murdered’ would simply obfuscate the method of killing.

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Why does the tool matter? Could easily do it with a knife

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Defending against a knife is a tad “easier” than being peng’d to death. Also there is that second amendment those Americans really really love. I don’t see any amendment regarding knives.

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No but if could have legal consequences. Murder is used both colloquially and legally, and accusing someone of being a murderer or committing murder if they have not been found guilty at trial could be considered, when issued by a news agency of any kind especially, as libel. That’s why you see news agencies using the word “allegedly” all the time. Because legally speaking, they are innocent until proven guilty, even if they were caught red-handed.

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What else can you fatally shoot someone with if the title is trying to avoid blaming guns?

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A syringe?

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You inject with a syringe but maybe their mind went there since that’s referred to as a shot. I guess they could also assume someone forced them to drink 1.5oz of liquor and died from it. Maybe it’s because I’m American but when I hear “fatally shot” only one instrument comes to mind.

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Using so-called “red flag” laws, local police could have potentially prevented DeLucia from obtaining a firearm if they were made aware he was dealing with mental health issues, Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder said Monday.

And if we had a PreCrime unit like in Minority Report, crime would never happen. What a pointless addition to the article and pointless statement by useles police. These kinds of mental issue are rarely caught in time as the person “seems normal” until they don’t. While long guns are insanely accessible and cheap in most states.

With the frequency that crazy errant behavior seems to occur with boomer-age people, I truly do wonder if there is a common thread. Leaded gas? Covid causing long-term brain damage from plugged blood vessels? Micro-plastics? Having to face the reality that their retirement is going to erode away because of the climate change they naively accelerated with their spoiled ass lives?

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