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Lmfao, how many conservatives does it take to endorse the “progressive” before the “blue no matter who” crowd realise they’re not voting “blue” at all, and worse, that “blue” is and always has been a fiction created to shift the Overton window constantly to the right and manufacture consent by and for whatever it is those in power are actually interested in?
What a fucking joke, seriously…
Have you listened to any of these Republicans who have endorsed her talk? They all think she’s wayyyy too progressive for them during normal times, they’re not endorsing Harris because she’s somehow a conservative now, they’re endorsing Harris because their party got taken over by fascists and they’re rare spine-filled conservatives.
You’re really not making the point you think you are.
Their words don’t matter (seriously, people are now going to convince themselves that conservatives have even a smidge of integrity, honesty, or a single non-self serving bone in their body, to make this work? smfh), their actions do, and their actions are to support a candidate that serves their interests best, and anyone serving their interests best (E: only because the other person is saying the quiet parts of their ideology out loud and getting in their way, and absolutely not because they disagree with said ideology), isn’t serving yours, at all.
You can try to maintain your cognitive dissonance at whatever cost you wish, but that won’t change reality. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Believe it or not, conservatives aren’t lying 24/7, they actually believe the things they say. That goes for both Pro-Trump and Anti-Trump conservatives.
If you were actually engaging in good faith political analysis, you’d see Harris is significantly more left wing than McCain or Romney.
We have to beat the Republican because beating the Republican comes first. Then we need to get a veto-proof majority so that our Democrat president doesn’t veto the legislation written by our Democrats in Congress. Finally, we need to elect a fully liberal SCOTUS.
Only then can we talk about lowering the enrollment age for Medicare by three years. Only then can we talk about raising the minimum wage by $1. Only then can we talk about establishing a student loan debt forgiveness program for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities.
So, like to so many other posters like this, I pose the question:
What is the alternative?
There are 49 Jocks led by a narcissistic jerk of a cheerleader in our school, and they have promised to close the book club and the game club, and make it easier for the jocks to abuse the Nerds, and the only thing between them and that is us 51 Nerds. When the SGA elections happen, the person with the most votes wins, and if that means 49 Jocks to 48 Nerds to 3 Nerds that bought the bullshit and voted third party or stayed home, it’s a 49 to 48 win for the Jocks and we 51 Nerds will just have to make do without Book and Game club. Is this person seriously advocating voting third party or staying home because Team Blue is too purple for their tastes? That’s a good way to get Project 2025 up the back entrance, sideways, without lube or dinner. A reminder to everyone else who might be swayed by this individual. There’s a reason why they are net -50 on votes right now and have 65 downvotes, and it’s not groupthink.
So why would I vote for her?
I’d link her policy platform but it’s still not on her website. Bookmark it for later…
Sorry that was a rhetorical question: If Republicans support her then why would I vote for her?
You’re wasting your breath, it’s no use trying to point out that their choices are quite literally conservative vs conservative+, they don’t care, they don’t want to hear it, facing the truth is too uncomfortable, so they’d much rather just keep their blinkers on and believe that their “team” is really progressive actually and there to protect them, and so they can leave their aspirations for change in their “safe” hands, despite everything in current reality, and history to boot, points to the contrary.
And they will fight to the death for their right to never consider the bigger picture and posture with their bare minimum efforts as if they’ve at the very least single handily saved the world.
The irony of how identical their self harming loyalty to their “team” is compared to those they claim to be the complete opposite of would be wildly hilarious if it wasn’t so concerning.
From the article.
We have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable," said the letter, which was first reported by USA Today.
Remember what he did with TS clearance and his children. The alternative is a national security risk.
Because of who she’s running against.
That’s it.
If you don’t understand this then I can’t help you.
They’re suffering from the ML. They know why they should. But more than anything they’re anti west. They’ll hypocritically endorse those doing the exact things they critique the west of. As long as they aren’t perceived as Western.
Once you understand that. All the nutty self contradictory things make perfect sense.
Lol who have I endorsed? I’m pretty vocally anti-Xi. I lived through the Shanghai lockdown of 2022
I mean… I don’t WANT these asshats feeling welcomed to our side just like I don’t want a billionaire talking at the DNC, and I don’t want a Republican getting speaking time while others with much more important less ethically reprehensible things to say aren’t allowed even 3 minutes on stage.
I want us to win despite these people, with folks like Lena Khan getting more props. I don’t want the endorsement of these rats jumping from the sinking R ship to the D ship because they smell some cheddar they might can come nibble on.
Your feelings don’t matter.
Trump has a 43% favorable rating, and there’s a good chance he could win in November.
Even after the Nazis had taken Paris, there were French monarchists who felt they were too good to unite with the Communists in the Resistance.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House, then we can start to pick and choose.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House
Create an unbreakable veto-proof majority of Romney Staffers and you’re going to end up with an unbreakable veto-proof policy written by Romney Staffers.
I haven’t seen Harris take a step backwards yet. The Romney folks are accepting her as she is.
I know we need to partner with everyone who will join us at the ballot… I just do NOT want the policies being reshaped in order to “better attract” the right-wingers - whose gutting of our already laughable social safety net was a key aspect that made so many increasingly desperate Americans far more vulnerable to demagoguery like that which is constantly espoused by figures like Trump.
The real solution is clearly laid out as history has multiple examples to show.
When people can’t meet their base socioeconomic needs, they are more vulnerable to this shit. So raise the baseline standards such that everyone who isn’t a billionaire is far better off - no medical debt, no student debt, affordable rent and housing, job and financial stability, and being able to afford to have a family.
Do NOT do cuts to our already barely-existing social and economic safety nets.
Your concerns are valid but all the Rs coming out like this is more about how terrible Trump is and less about anything else. Don’t underestimate how many moderates there are in both parties and these Rs help there - progressives need their votes. After Trump is gone, we can hopefully go back to trying to improve the voting system, pushing Dems more left and hope that anyone on the right exchanges some of their selfinterests for social interests - but that’s best we can dream for.
an endorsement != they’re setting policy
You know that… I know that. Do the consultants and millionaire pundits in the beltway at the ears of those in power know that?
I mean… so many of the people on TV seem to LOVE pretending there’s some sort of fairy-tale “middle-of-the-road” voter that only wants a little teensy tiny bit of genocide, racism, federal abortion ban, and just a little tiny 0.001% increase in taxes for billionaires… rather than just fascists / fascist apologists (Republican Trump supporters)… and people who don’t want fascist bullshit (everyone else).
and if anyone wants anything done in congress, then we’re going to need compromise and coalition building because neither party is getting a supermajority any time soon.
i mean look bro i’ll welcome whoever admits the faults of the republican party, we’ve got a low bar set here. We gotta take what we can get you feel me?
actually, on second thought, don’t touch me.
Ok how about this :
They can join, but I’d better not hear the D leaders basically saying to Romney and McConnell ilk : “Sit up here, friend! 😘Now you can join us and take the wheel to help us steer our country somewhere better!”
If they don’t want to fuck this up, they’d better say to any of these likely turncoats : “sit down and row ya bilge rat. If I think yer not tryin’ yer damndest or look to not be doing yer part I’ll lock ye cockle shells in irons and toss yer ass as a meat anchor to the bloodthirsty sharks in the depths below.”
they don’t exactly have much of an option here. They either support the trump campaign and do a little bit of silly, or they support the dems which won’t do much if any silly.
Regardless, any republican willing to fence sit this hard on this election cycle is likely going to be a decent person anyway. They probably won’t have a ton of support for the dems, but it’s a good sign that we have support from republicans so i’ll take what i can get.
I also think it’s extremely unlikely that any of them actually get any significant say outside of the standard voting procedure. They’re unlikely to line up perfectly, but again, any support is support.
Although i would kill for a pirate impression in the government, not gonna lie.
If you listened to Harris’s acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She’s accepting their endorsements today. And she’s going to start taking their advice tomorrow.
Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I’m not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” is whispering in the next President’s ear.
Too bad. We’re watching the death throes of the GOP, and the Dems will stay right to continue courting the hemorrhaging right-wing voters. It’s just another little reminder that after electing Harris, leftists will need to continue to organize to form our own pro-labor party.
Democrats celebrating their appeal to right wingers. Noice.
Do you remember Trump?
Karl Rove was as bad as we thought we’d get but even he was too liberal for these people
Following Todd Akin’s comments regarding “legitimate rape” and the notion that raped women are unlikely to become pregnant, Rove joked about murdering the Missouri Senate candidate, saying “We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”
I do remember those elections and even voted in them too! Shit has gone WAY DOWNHILL since then.
I hope when all is said and done in 12-16 years. The democrats are the right wing and there is a new actual left wing.