Honda has pledged to invest $64 billion to develop seven bespoke electric vehicles, which it plans to launch by 2030 on its way to selling only EVs and fuel-cell vehicles after 2040. However, there doesn’t seem to be a consensus within the company that there is enough demand for EVs, which is reflected in its limited selection of available battery-powered models.

This is true for Japan’s home market but also for North America, where Honda sells two vehicles (the Prologue and the Acura ZDX), both of which are made by General Motors on the Ultium platform. Whenever Honda’s top executives come out to speak about selling fully electric vehicles, it always sounds like a mixed message that, in part, reaffirms the brand’s commitment to electrification while also suggesting it’s not yet convinced this is the way.

60 points

I hate when manufacturers tell me what I want and don’t want.

Fuck you Apple. Fuck you Samsung. Fuck you Google. and Fuck you Honda.

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And Fuck you, Matt Damon!

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5 points

Also fuck you dolphin, and fuck you whale!

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1 point

…cow and chicken? …Fuck you, cow, and fuck you, chicken!

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34 points

All they need to do is bring back the Honda Fit but this time its electric. Or do an electric Odyssey.

I really think the reason people aren’t getting electric cars is because they are all 20k more than the equivalent mid-size SUV and there are never any for people to test drive on a lot. At least not in my area.

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6 points

That and the insurance is through the roof in some places.

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34 points

This is coming from another manufacturer that decided to stop building the cheap cars because they weren’t profitable?
Yeah, get fucked.

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The average tax on cigarettes due to their “Ill effects” on the populous is 1.93 per pack. The average pack is around 8. Car emissions kill about twice as many people as cigarettes do. Sounds like we should tax cars using gasoline an extra 25%.
Throw in us not subsidizing the oil and gasoline and poof, the number of electric chargers and cars would sky rocket. The grid would finally get upgrades as were being proposed pre-obama era.

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2 points

Yes, and alcohol, and kerosine. We’re taxing them nearly enough

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This should be the cross that sin tax dies on. Either we kill taxes on things deciphered bad for you by government, or we tax everything bad for you as a sin. They won’t accept taxes on gas, oil, non-naturally occuring sugar in foods. Force them to recognize they are impending the freedoms of others or force them to accept they are required to play as well

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33 points

Most drivers don’t want giant SUVs. That market is saturated. Ship a smaller EV with decent range, affordable price, and fast charging — and you will corner that part of the market.

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In my case, he’s only half right:

I don’t want any new car at all. They’re all mobile surveillance platforms, snooping on everything their drivers do and reporting to the mothership, who in turn “monetizes” their data and does god know what else with it.

Well fuck that - be the surveillance machine equipped with an ICE or an electric motor. Big Data-riddled modern cars is the reason why I ride the bus.

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Same. I basically want my 2010s car, but with an electric engine (possibly a plug-in hybrid, not fully decided). But, no, modern cars will require me to do things like research how to disconnect the modem so the damn thing isn’t selling my driving data and find one that doesn’t require me to use the touch screen while fucking driving. So instead, I’m just continuing to drive my car and hoping legislation or a manufacturer figures this shit out.

Give me a basic car, but with an electric engine. That’s what I want.

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Yep same. I just want my old honda civic with a battery. Thats it.

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1 point

Then get a Light Electric Vehicule, you may not go as fast and as far as your car but it might be enough for 90% of daily travels

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Toyota does at least offer you the ability to completely disable data collection. Once their remote start/charge/climate control etc for free ran out, I disabled data collection and deleted the app off my phone.

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You can physically disable it?

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No but Toyota has a privacy website where you can opt out of all data collection for the vehicle. They warn you that you lose the ability to track the vehicle if it is stolen too, which sucks, but they won’t let you keep that and opt out of everything else so I just opted out of the entire package.

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