Yeah, Homeopathy is pseudoscience and a lot of diluting and banging things on a table and false claims. The placebo effect is proper science.
Fun fact, Samuel Hahnemann was a pioneer in medical research. He was absolutely a quack, but in the absence of actual knowledge and understanding of physiology, his methods were at least rigorous. At the time, the practice of bloodletting was common, and he accurately decried the practice as doing more harm than good.
In his efforts to advance medical knowledge, the guy would ingest known poisons in small quantities and document how it made him feel. “This upsets my stomach, it must be good for indigestion, that one makes me cough, so it must be good for tuberculosis.” He was willing to injure himself to learn medicine. He also poisoned his colleagues, students, and healthy test subjects to further his research without killing himself.
The concept that like treats like was revolutionary. It was completely wrong, but it was not entirely irrational and it led to several important discoveries. The most famous example of a homeopathic success story is nitroglycerin. It causes heart palpitations, and has been one of the most successful heart attack interventions ever discovered.
Of course, we now have the scientific method, medical ethics, informed consent, and a much clearer understanding of human physiology and biology. We now know that homeopathy is crap. Even wt the time, dilution and succussion were entirely irrational, and anyone selling homeopathic remedies today ought to be charged with fraud. But still, it’s an interesting bit of medical and scientific history that most people dismiss entirely.
People think a lot of things
Placebos only work if the people think they’ll work. Funnily enough, it is possible to be aware something is a placebo and still expect it to work, but generally placebos involve some deception where the person thinks they’re receiving real treatment.
So yes, people selling homeopathic remedies are going to claim they’re real treatments, both to convince people to buy them, and because they’ll be most effective if people think they’re real. And the people buying them will also be the people who believe they’re actually effective, causing them to actually have an effect.
Placebos only work if the people think they’ll work. Funnily enough, it is possible to be aware something is a placebo and still expect it to work,
Even if you know that it is a placebo, it still works. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/placebos-work-even-without-deception
I don’t know if you have to believe in the placebo effect for it to have an effect. :)
Homeopathy… do the sugar balls have a better effect if they are very expensive? Who knows.
Yeah, it would be a fine thing to sell to people, given that:
- they don’t charge ridiculous prices for it, and
- they never claim to be a treatment for any ailment that actually needs real treatment.
but generally placebos involve some deception where the person thinks they’re receiving real treatment.
That’s literally what a placebo is…
Being aware that the placebo effect exists, and even being aware that someone is about to hand you something that may or may not be a placebo still doesn’t effect the chances of a placebo effect.
Like…
Do you think when placebos are used in studies that the patients aren’t aware that they may get an inactive treatment?
They literally have to sign contracts acknowledging that they’re aware of that fact in every medicinal trial…
Why doors such blatantly wrong information keep getting upvoted on Lemmy?
This is far from the first time I’ve seen this happen.
People know that they can get a placebo treatment, but they don’t know if they actually got a placebo or the real treatment. They’re also generally hoping both that they got the real treatment, and that the real treatment will make things better.
Maybe calling it deception isn’t fully accurate, but the the point is that they’re given something they hope is medicine, but in reality it’s the placebo treatment.
My father and stepmother were full tilt into this quackery. Today they don’t talk about it as much, but they do talk about politics an awful lot. I’ll let you figure out where they fall on the political spectrum.