157 points

The Harris and Trump teams don’t agree about whether mikes should be cut when their opponent is speaking.

You might think Team Harris wants the mikes cut. But actually, they want the mikes kept on throughout the debate. Team Trump wants them cut, because they are afraid Trump won’t be able to control himself and end up looking bad. Which I think is hilarious.

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77 points

Just fyi, it’s “mic” when talking about microphones.

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67 points

Phew, I was really worried someone was gonna cut poor mike.

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40 points

The USA has a male circumcision rate of over 80%, so likelihood is that Mike is already cut.

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26 points

They did… Mike’s not the VP candidate this time around. I was trying to figure out what he was going to be doing at the debate….

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2 points

“On Mike… The lovely Cher! You OK, Mike?”

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41 points

Hot take: Harris’ team wants open hot mics because there’s a nonzero chance of catching Trump uttering the hard-R

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17 points

I don’t think he’d lose a single voter, to be honest.

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It was never about making him lose voters, his rabies-frothing brain dead fan base will never break. It was about making him look like the massive corrupt openly racist piece of shit that he is, so that everyone else with a brain will be motivated to actually get out and vote AGAINST him.

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You might think Team Harris wants the mikes cut. But actually, they want the mikes kept on throughout the debate. Team Trump wants them cut, because they are afraid Trump won’t be able to control himself and end up looking bad. Which I think is hilarious.

I hope they know what they’re doing . Trump voters don’t expect Trump to present logical arguments and back them up. They expect him to shout nonsense, talk over his opponent, and then declare victory at the end because that’s what their idea of “tough” is.

So I hope the Harris camp has thought this strategy all the way through. A debate “win” isn’t determined by who presented the most logical arguments or the most coherent vision. The winner is determined by who gets a bump in the polls and ultimately gains voters afterwards, and potential Trump supporters aren’t looking the same things as Democrats.

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Harris isn’t using the debate to win over Trump supporters. That ship has sailed. She is using the debate to win over swing voters and motivate her own supporters.

Polls show swing voters don’t like it when Trump interrupts people, and it can motivate (ie enrage) her own supporters.

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Polls show swing voters don’t like it when Trump interrupts people, and it can motivate (ie enrage) her own supporters.

I hope this is true, but there are definitely many swing voters who consider Trump’s bullshit to be how tough people behave , and it makes them more likely to vote for him. If that weren’t the case I doubt he would have been elected.

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6 points

I know there are probably some good reasons not to go there, but I’d really love to see the Harris campaign turn this into a “free speech” argument. The righties have spent a lot of time conditioning their supporters with “free speech” dog whistles.

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Team Trump wants them cut, because they are afraid Trump won’t be able to control himself and end up looking bad. Which I think is hilarious.

thats what team Harris says, doesnt mean its true if you want to be neutral.

I am sure team Trump woukd say something like we dont want Harris intruptting Trump when its his turn.

I am pro Harris but I agree with muting mics

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8 points

We have ample evidence of Donald not shutting the fuck up. It is true. Neutrality doesn’t mean shoving aside the evidence of objective reality.

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3 points

team Trump woukd say something like we dont want Harris intruptting

Then I have the perfect solution. Mute Harris but keep Trump’s on. What could go wrong?

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I am sure team Trump woukd say something like we dont want Harris intruptting Trump when its his turn.

Is that argument that Harris will be stealing Trump’s job? Of the two, only one of them is known for their inability to shut the fuck up.

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2 points

Open mic is like handing Dementia DonOLD a rope that he will no doubt hang himself with. I’m all for it. The fact that his team doesn’t want it makes me want it even more.

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49 points

Hey member that time before debating Hillary when he snorted like twenty lines of coke and spent the whole debate sniffling and grinding his teeth?

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39 points

Maybe Harris should call for a drug test before the debate…much like he was screaming for one before Biden’s

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14 points

Nah, his valet has clean pee exactly fir that reason

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8 points

ah i didnt see this, could i get a link?

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37 points

Trump realizing what he is getting into with the debates:

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9 points

Dune mini series?

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7 points

yes

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6 points

lol this is fantastic

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Strategically speaking, why does Harris want open mics? I thought Dems pushed for the muted mics to prevent Trump from blabbering past his time? Seems like a situation that would make it hard for Harris to get a word in otherwise, trying to understand the benefit.

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Probably because they think when (not if) Trump blabbers while Harris is trying to speak, it will make Trump look bad in front of undecided voters. I think they’re right.

Team Harris might even try to pull a Chris Christie, who predicted what Rubio would say and watched his prediction come true, eg

Harris: “As a former prosecutor, I believe in following the rules. But Trump believes rules don’t apply to him. He’s not supposed to interrupt me, but he just did a moment ago. And mark my words: he will do it again soon, because -”

Trump: “No I won’t!”

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8 points

Hahaha - you must be Nostradamus because that’s exactly how it will go.

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35 points

He won’t be able to stay focused the entire time. I assume the Dems think that at some point he’ll say something so monumentally stupid that even the media can’t gloss over it any more.

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But he says monumentally stupid things every hour of every day, it’s hardly a blip any more. Idk, I have my doubts. I know Harris can hold her own but when his lies compound more lies before anyone can make an argument for truth, it becomes impossible to keep up even under the best conditions. It’s not a court room with a judge that’s going to hold anyone in contempt.

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To me or you, but not to MAGA. What if, on the topic of crime, he goes off on a tangent and says something to the effect of “I’ll just repeal the second amendment, no guns no problem!”

That would be something monumentally stupid for him to say to his MAGA base

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12 points

He won’t be able to stay focused the entire time.

Have the Trump handlers considered dangling a set of shiny keys above his head during Harris’s answer to distract him?

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7 points

Laser pointer?

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3 points

I can see him muttering all sorts of BS while Harris is speaking.

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21 points

Because she’s a former DA with a significant amount of trial experience in pretty high-stakes cases, and Trump is an imbecile. I really do think she’d absolutely take him apart in a debate.

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A courtroom is a highly controlled environment with everyone operating under oath and tangible consequences for breaking decorum, like I said in my other comment, overall I don’t doubt Harris could hold her own - but it seems like a misstep that will allow trump to soak up all the airtime. I hope I’m wrong!

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21 points

Go watch the "I’m speaking "moment when Harris debated pence.

Destroyed. She wants this again.

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Sure that makes sense, but I also believe Pence backed off because he had a shred of self respect.

What will Harris do with someone who doesn’t yield and instead raises their voice, doubles down, and starts redirecting, asking when she became black?

Different beasts, guess it will be interesting if nothing.

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To his credit, Biden adhered to the give/take of ideas with Trump. It’s courteous to let the other person speak and I’m sure he thought those watching would clearly see he’s the reasonable person in the debate. Since Trump has no such courtesy, he just ran out the clock with nonsense, making Biden look weak/confused rather than reasonable. So they wanted the mics cut. I think they’re confident in Harris’ ability to put Trump on his ass when he tries with her.

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They’re pointing out that Trump wants muted mics because he can’t shut up and won’t be able to stop blabbering. The relatively sane people running trumps campaign know that would be a huge problem because he’s already getting press for babbling batshit and a debate in prime time would be the last place they’d want him to go full demented narcissist.

By making it a news article, Trump sees it and is therefore pitted against his own campaign which he can’t allow, so - it’s win-win and they haven’t even agreed to anything yet.

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It could be that the Harris people are playing mind games.

If Donnie wants open mics, demand open mics.

He’s a toddler, so he’ll switch and demand they be cut off.

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4 points

She’s ging to shout "Liar’ everytime he lies. I’d use an airhorn but whatever works

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I know you’re kidding, but that’s the second-worst thing she could do, with not calling him on ANY of his lies the worst.

No matter how true, yelling the same word every 5 or so seconds is NOT an effective debate strategy.

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Guy’s completely fucked in the head. He’s going to say all sorts of weird stupid shit that will further entrench some fraction of undecideds in the Harris camp. Harris has been very smart to mock him and goad him into fits of verbal diarrhea.

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As to not having the mics cut as a tactic so that Trump’s bullying idiocy is on full display, I disagree. The idea that his ape-like behaviour is somehow a secret after nine years of his bullshit schtick is somewhat doubtful.

For comparison purposes, you need Harris’ intelligent and reasoned argument immediately followed by Trump’s bellowing laundry list of personal gripes, off-mark name calling, ridiculous lies and tangential remarks about sharks, electric cars and Hannibal Lector…

Then, once again, to be sharply contrasted by Harris’ calm and normal description of her politics.

As fascinating as it to watch this Buffoon yelling and screaming on stage, no one will hear what Harris has to say and there will be plenty watching her for the first time waiting to hear.

Edit: Turns out that the Harris campaign wants live mics, so what do I know?

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