I do not have and addiction problem, you have a problem with my addiction.

59 points

Is it too much to ask for the days when my system was nothing but a prompt in which I may or may not type “startx”?

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That’s what I’ve got (on Gentoo).

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7 points

I always ran startx & exit to prevent someone from VT switching to a logged in console if my screen was locked :)

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3 points

Joke’s on you. Ctrl-Alt-F1 Ctrl-z.

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1 point

Right, that’s what the & exit is supposed to prevent, since it’s already logged out.

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I think that is supposed to work on startx && exit

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Hah that’s what I always had on Debian on my laptop back in the version 9 days (buster?). Nothing’s stopping you from doing it now with runlevels. I think with systemd it’s just systemctl set-default multiuser.target

You can then always get the full boot with systemctl isolate graphical.target

Might not be the exact command but it’s something like that for sure.

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4 points

The default systemd target to boot into can be overriden from the kernel command line.

If the GUI ever gets broken, having a such fallback boot entry just for the (VT) console mode is invaluable. (The boot-entry can reuse the same kernel and initrd images from the regular boot.)

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Did not know that! Thanks for the tip!

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3 points

Been a while but isn’t that very insecure? Gotta run startx & exit ;)

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2 points

Takes me back to my first Arch install in like 2008.

I used Arch btw

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Well, one can always uninstall the DE, right?

A fresh install of debian without DE will do that at least

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47 points

I’m at the point in my Linux journey where I have settled into a stable system, configured 99.9% how I want it. Seeing diminishing returns on effort put into tweaking it. But I just keep looking at window managers. I have people who need me in the world but I just can’t stop looking at them. I don’t know what to do.

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31 points

Every year or so I fire up a VM, install a window manager on it, realize I have no idea WTF I’m doing, and nuke the VM and go back to my regular KDE desktop.

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15 points

Do not worry I’m daily driving a window manager and still do not know what I’m doing.

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You should try a well-configured window manager to love them.

I have tried using i3wm with default settings and it is very far from the configured system

Try ArchCraft to understand

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10 points

I used to do the same, but recently I’ve found a dustro and window manager that just work for me. The distro is Fedora atomic, and the window manager is sway.

I pretty much just used a floating window manager like a tiling one, almost always snapping them to 1/2 or 1/3 of the screen. Eventually I tried sway, and after learning some of the shortcuts, it seems like the perfect window manager for someone like me.

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6 points

I’m in the same boat so I started getting my “tweaking” fix by making my own themes. Just got my first cursor theme working and it’s awesome!

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Sweet! I’ve experimented with installing a few bits from gnome look but haven’t made any of my own. How difficult is it? I’ve managed to theme my favourite terminal applications though. A big part of my satisfaction is based on feeling, a large part of which is visual. Diehard instrumentalists may look down on me for it but I am unashamed and not alone.

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Honestly, it’s way more convoluted and frustrating than it has any right to be. The only tools I found were cursor-toolbox which allows you to convert SVG templates to the correct set of PNGs and xcursorgen which converts the PNGs to actual cursor files. It took me several tries just get a working cursor set. Then I spent much much longer actually drawing and tweaking my theme using inkscape. It was certainly rewarding to get it working though. Now I smile every time I see the little “busy” animation.

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Same. The temptation is strong but I don’t know if it’ll be worth the time and effort when Xfce already works fine for me.

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1 point

What do you use? I’m happy with i3 and haven’t looked at other window managers in a while.

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2 points

GNOME lol!

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43 points

Don’t forget to switch your wm atleast once a year for no reason.

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27 points

that is just barbaric, you should do it at least once a month.

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9 points

I did all of grad school with i3wm. And I spent a very, very long time in grad school…

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So true. Sway forever.

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I love Sway, but Hyprland’s special workspace thing is just so damn good.

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12 points

Meh, hyprland devs and community are known for being toxic, specially with minorities. Can’t use because of this :/

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7 points

How is it relevant to using the wm in your desktop?

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7 points

I don’t see the toxicness on my desktop

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I also love sway’s default key bindings, so there one more point keeping me on it

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2 points

Yeah but Hyprland window groups tend to eat each other with the dwindle layout

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5 points

what do you mean by eat each other?

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1 point

Same. It also has option to open an app when an empty workspace is opened. It’s just so convenient compared to sway which is very solid but also feels quite limiting like i3.

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I think you can open stuff when empty workspaces are created, I did it once but I do not anymore because my workspaces reason of being changes when I connect and external monitor.

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17 points

well, i3 never failed me, compared to a bit buggy kde experience

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4 points

i3 took my wm virginity and it was great

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1 point

Same! Like eight years now. I never really tried anything else, it clicked so fast and is so intuitive

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