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“Emulators are only OK when we specifically release them for our own hardware to run an extremely limited catalog that we hand pick and then charge the price of a brand new release for. Everyone else get fucked”

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24 points

Don’t forget releasing pirated copies on our stolen emulators that we are now charging money for!

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5 points

Wtf? That happened to Nintendo? O.o

(I thought that was the PS mini)

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2 points

I thought this was a 3rd party company, not a Nintendo 1st party product. I can’t remember the name, but it was a company that rereleases out of print games on physical cartridges.

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2 points

What’s the story here?

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2 points

“Don’t mind if I do!”

uses their official emulators to play roms on SNES Classic and Switch

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2 points

“no wait, not like that!”

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5 points

Meanwhile there’s a bunch of evidence suggesting Nintendo used pirated ROMs for their own emulators.

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57 points
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Hey, remember that game you loved as a kid and wanted it on your newest system with minor quality of life changes? We made a mobile version that kills the style, has a shitty controller layout that you cant change, and its $59.99 more than when it originally released 30 years ago

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The fact that SNES games were $60 30 years ago and games are still that price means we are actually getting a deal. Except the physical part is what made the $60 feel worth it, the cart, the full color 30 page manual and sometimes posters! Now games are digital they should be like $10 max from Nintendo.

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12 points

They were also complete games rather than having content carved off of them to sell as MTX.

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1 point

Inflation never hit Arby’s -Nick Thune

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7 points

Final Fantasy VI could have had such a beautiful post SNES legacy.

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Wait…FFVI was for the SUPER NINTENDO??? I love that game, why did I think it was a PlayStation original, along with VII?

Edit: I looked it up and it’s blowing my mind that it came out in 1994.

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8 points

SNES was home to some of the best RPGs. Chrono Trigger, FFVI, Mario RPG, Secret of Mana, Tales of Phantasia. I remember when FFVII came out it was a heated debate of which one was the best between VI & VII.

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4 points

Your thinking of Fanal Fantasy Anthologies which includes FFV and FFVI which were both originally SNES. First FF game on PS1 was FFVII.

Weird from my perspective for someone to think FFVI was first on the PS1 but I grew up playing NES-PS2 during grade school.

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2 points

It gets even weirder, as the US only got FF1, FF4, FF6 originally and the latter two were renamed to FF2 and FF3 when they were localised.

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2 points

The pixel remaster is a solid version. Could have used the GBA dungeons, but the music is very well done.

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My rule is that if they don’t sell the game for the original system anymore, then it’s not stealing.

Stealing from who. The used market?

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Which they and every other gaming company have tried to kill at one point or another, and I fully expect them to try again next Gen. They probably hope that the people who pay attention and care are getting older and won’t make as much of a fuss as we did with the last three generations.

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3 points

Thankfully hacking systems has never been easier. I’m literally downloading games on a fan Eshop for my Wii U as we speak.

Serves them right for closing it all down

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12 points

Obviously these are all legitimate backups from games I own.

Doing the lords work

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4 points

Barring me from getting old games in a modern platform will not stop me from playing old games on a modern platform.

The sooner they realize that and plan accordingly by releasing their old catalogs for appropriate pricing, the sooner they will get what they want and piracy and emulation will plummet.

When people have a cheap and easy way of doing something without wondering if they’re about to get SWATed, they’re way more likely to actually do that.

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I’m sure you meant it as hyperbole, but SWAT will not actually show up to anyone’s home just for pirating video games. At most, a handful of local police or FBI may knock on your door, but SWAT are not called in for something like that. Not unless you have some history with the police of extreme violence or you have given them reason to suspect you are going to put up a fight.

A person is most likely to recieve a letter in the mail or an email from the lawyers of Nintendo before police are invovled.

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It’s not easy having to pay to keep a warehouse with every arcade cabinet, game cartridge, and game disk ever made, but we can’t be violating copyright, now can we? Think of the corporations!

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46 points

Every time I hear Nintendo issues another C&D, I have a new emulator to download before they get forcibly taken down.

It’s 100% the streisand effect.

“Oh you’re whining about another small group of people passionate about your past games? Well let me pile onto your woes. Asshole.”

I do not understand how one company can have so much dedication from fans while simultaneously despising them.

If YOU aren’t going to offer a 100% obviously and clearly above board, legal, safe, option for games anymore, someone else WILL and you get absolutely nothing from it.

And I also don’t understand why a company with no intention of ever selling something again still has the ability to sue people while claiming lost revenue. Get fucked, and stop bitching. It just makes me never want to buy Nintendo products ever again.

But that won’t stop me from playing Nintendo products.

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8 points

There really needs to be “Use it or lose it” system when it comes to intellectual property.

Not selling Manhunt 2 anywhere? Can’t bitch when I find a cracked copy…

I’m just kidding, Rockstar doesn’t because they realize they’re not losing money on a product they literally don’t sell or even acknowledge that often.

Piracy is not a crime, it is the preservation of art.

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7 points

I tried to run suyu yesterday and found out that Nintendo actually succeeded in practically killing the development of yuzu and its’ forks.

Suyu and sudachi are dead and torzu is hosted/developed by a single developer who admits they wont be able to properly keep on development.

It’s reasonable, because apparently yuzu used Nintendo code from a devkit, which makes the whole codebase radioactive. But yeah: Nintendo actually succeeded in the end. :/

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9 points

Ryujinx still exists so, besides android, switch emulation is still going.

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6 points

I know. But they targeted yuzu and successfully killed it. (because some of the devs supposedly did extremely stupid things)

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There is a actually a method to Nintendo’s madness. As part of IP ownership, “Reasonable Measures” must be taken to defend your IP or you risk losing the right to defend them. That said they can gobble my ryujinx

I am definitely not a lawyer.

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14 points

This only applies to trademarks and the risk of genericization. You don’t lose copyrights that way.

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From my understanding of Japanese law (lol super duper limited), it actually is the case specifically in Japan that they could lose their older IPs, however if they are still in use (banjo kazooie just got a new game in the last few years, right?) then THOSE IPs are safe in terms of maintaining ownership.

In my opinion that’s just bullshit, but I do understand the reasoning.

However, if an IP has been abandoned, and no new games are planned, it should be completely fair game.

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Which is why I’m surprised most video game characters are generic humans these days.

Seems like it’s easier to protect a trademark on Banjo and Kazooie than it is for John McWhiteguy from Call of Duty.

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Can you help me with this? My reading says different:

What is Intellectual Property?

There are four types of intellectual property:

  • A trademark is a name, logo, symbol, slogan, or tagline – or in some limited cases, even a shape, color, or sound – that is used to identify and distinguish goods or services of one person or company from those of another.
  • A patent is a right granted by the federal government to the patent owner that permits the owner to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention for a limited time period (for example, up to 20 years).
  • A copyright grants the owner the exclusive right to publish, reproduce, print, perform, display, license, film or record their literary, artistic, or musical content, and prepare derivative works based on the copyrighted work.
  • A trade secret is highly confidential proprietary information, such as a device, method, technique, process, formula, or program, that has undergone reasonable efforts to maintain its secrecy because it provides significant economic value in not being known or readily discoverable by others

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Wouldn’t the bolded ‘trade secret’ section cover their switch’s defense against its emulators?

Then, the requirement to defend:

For Good Reason: “Reasonable Measures” in Recent Trade Secret Law

One often-overlooked requirement has the potential to make or break a trade secret misappropriation claim: the trade secret owner must have taken “reasonable measures” to protect the trade secret; otherwise the information does not qualify as trade secret under the Federal Defend Trade Secrets Act (“DTSA”) or the Uniform Trade Secrets Act (“UTSA”). But the statute does not provide what protective measures are sufficiently reasonable, so that determination largely depends on each case’s facts and circumstances. This article examines recent case law surrounding what measures courts have found to be “reasonable” under the circumstances (and which ones courts have found were not “reasonable” under the circumstances).

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39 points

If they sold emulators on steam or gog I would probably pay a reasonable amount for them. But they don’t, so I pay nothing.

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Nintendo Switch has a bunch of emulators. You need a premium subscription though.

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18 points

IMO, a subscription service is almost worse than not selling them at all.

Either I buy them individually for a reasonable one time fee, or I don’t and get them for free.

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10 points

I don’t want to play on a switch though. If I play on my computer, that’s a platform that’s going to be around for ages. And had no subscription fees.

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5 points

And a Switch, of course…

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