The principal’s action was the result of a new state law that had gone into effect just months earlier, heightening penalties for students who make threats at school. Passed after a former student shot and killed six people at The Covenant School in Nashville, the law requires students to be expelled for at least a year if they threaten mass violence on school property, making it a zero-tolerance offense.

Tennessee lawmakers claimed that ramping up punishments for threats would help prevent serious acts of violence. “What we’re really doing is sending a message that says ‘Hey, this is not a joke, this is not a joking matter, so don’t do this,’” state Sen. Jon Lundberg, a co-sponsor of the legislation, told a Chattanooga news station a week and a half after the law went into effect.

Tennessee school officials have used the law to expel students for mildly disruptive behavior, according to advocates and lawyers across the state who spoke with ProPublica. (In Tennessee and a number of other states, expulsions aren’t necessarily permanent.) Some students have been expelled even when officials themselves determined that the threat was not credible. Lawmakers did put a new fix in place in May that limits expulsions to students who make “valid” threats of mass violence. But that still leaves it up to administrators to determine which threats are valid.

In some cases last school year, administrators handed off the responsibility of dealing with minor incidents to law enforcement. As a result, the type of misbehavior that would normally result in a scolding or brief suspension has led to children being not just expelled but also arrested, charged and placed in juvenile detention, according to juvenile defense lawyers and a recent lawsuit.

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The only thing that will stop kids making finger guns is more good kids with finger guns.

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The Uvalde cops would still sit that one out somehow.

Wouldn’t want to risk getting their eye pocked by accident.

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As long as they keep it in their pocket

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My five year old got a week out of school suspension and made to go to the kids psych ward because she pretended to shoot someone on the playground as part of a game. The other kid narced on her and it turned into a big fucking thing.

Fuck this bullshit country.

The psych ward doctors said “this is the stupidest thing we’ve ever dealt with”

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Also of note, she has diagnosed adhd and THAT turned into a big ordeal. To the point my wife called the diocese (it’s a catholic school, despite us being atheist) and got the principal shitcanned because of how they were treating our kid.

The new principal was bad at first but worked with us and we came up with a plan and system for the adhd.

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I had a kid in elementary school claim they had a gun in their backpack and were going to shot them with.

The child reported the threat to their parents after school so the school didn’t have a chance to search the backpack.

This was a problem child so this was hardly his first run in with stepping out of line. All that happened was that I got a phone call.

Not all school districts are insane.

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Ok, so now we’re just destroying the education of little kids who have imagination. That’s awesome.

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🧑‍🚀👈🧑‍🚀 Always have been

(Which is not to say this isn’t making it even worse, 'cause it is.)

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You’re expelled

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I’d get in some minor, and I do mean minor, trouble in elementary school and say, “Buh, buh, but I thought…”

“You’re not here to think!”

Got that a few times.

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My little brother was expelled from school in 1st grade for drawing a gun (which looked far more like a banana) and pointing it at another kid. That was in rural Alabama in 2000. Nothing new here.

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Do these freaks really not remember what it was like to be a kid? Kids do crazy shit, it’s how we all learn about ourselves, our boundaries, our values. Punishing a kid for playing around like this will not help anyone, it will simply make it more likely that this kid acts out later because their sense of what’s socially acceptable and what’s not will be completely skewed by these absurd rules.

I played finger guns in school all the time (before active-shooter drills were a thing, to be fair), and it’s part of how I figured out that I hate guns and violence. Punishment first has never been effective, we need to trust ourselves and our kids a little more.

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“What we’re really doing is sending a message that says ‘Hey, this is not a joke, this is not a joking matter, so don’t do this,’” state Sen. Jon Lundberg, a co-sponsor of the legislation, told a Chattanooga news station

Yeah guys! We’re gonna start taking mass shootings super-seriously now! If you shoot adults and children and then commit suicide at a school in Tennessee, you better expect some serious consequences now, guys!

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