I liked auto tldr bot why not just let people block it themselves if they dont like it.

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60 points

Was that the bot that just cut paragraphs from an article to shorten them, mangling context beyond comprehension in the process?

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58 points

I rarely had that problem from the bot. Reading from it at least gave me more information and saved me a click without having to be bombarded with cookie notices and requests to subscribe to a newsletter.

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17 points

I did like it when the site was pay walled

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0 points

Just use archive.org! At least then you’re not getting an AI hallucinated β€œsummary” of the article.

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57 points

So… how do I opt in to see the bot in the comments?

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Ahh you see they pulled a sneaking in ya. You can’t its simply deflecting from the argument.

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36 points

When it comes to tools that help you stay informed, I’d say the opposite is true.

If one wants to maintain ignorance, they should have to do so at their own inconvenience.

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2 points

Which tool is helping us stay informed?

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not really. there is no good way for people to know what bots are available. if they had a bots section in the settings where you could turn them on then maybe.

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3 points

You can opt in to not seeing the bots.

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I love how the mods of the News community held a thread asking for feedback on the bias bot. Everyone overwhelmingly said it was full of shit and should be removed. The mods decided that it must be the text formatting that’s the problem, not the obvious lies the bot spews.

Edit: https://lemmy.world/post/18775630

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Then in another thread I came across they said they were open to any solution except getting rid of the bot. When I asked why that was off the table I got a copy paste strawman and then ghosted. I get that modding is a tough and often thankless job but if you make a decision like this that’s wildly unpopular then refused to consider feedback it sends a poor message to the community. Hopefully a better solution can be found.

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Anyone who said otherwise got downvoted to hell and deleted their comments because it was clear the bot haters are so fervent they do not care about facts, they just want to yell about hating something.

And the mods aren’t the ones that implemented the bot. It was the admins, so no shit the mods couldn’t do anything about it.

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30 points

That’s an odd way to agree with me that the bot is entirely unpopular.

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1 point

No it means that the only people participating in the thread are people who passionately hate it. The same way you only hear negative reviews for things, even if something is great, because most people don’t care enough to put the effort in for positive reviews.

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A slight follow-up: the mod log on Lemmy is public, and I can’t find much evidence to corroborate your claim that all of the supporting comments were self-deleted. Can you back up the claim you made?

Not to mention that anyone who is so worried about imaginary federated internet points to the point of deleting unpopular statements is a fuckin’ loser that isn’t worth listening to…

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Self deletions don’t appear in the mod log. Only moderator actions. That’s why it’s called the mod log.

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18 points

Maybe a bunch of people just don’t like a bot being pushed that tells people what to think.

Still waiting for Rooki to see reason.

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I don’t hate bots, I don’t even hate the MBFC bot but I feel strongly about it specifically because it spreads misinformation. Claiming that an arbitrary bias rating can in any way be considered a fact is going out on a limb, to put it mildly. I don’t hate bots, I don’t hate facts, and I don’t like yelling. Frankly it’s been pretty tiring to try and stay constructive whilst voicing concerns about something I am passionate about.

Instead of accusing everyone you disagree with of being a hater and wanting to yell at things, maybe we could engage honestly with the issue instead.

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Not a single person in this thread has provided a single shred of proof for the β€œmisinformation” claim, so forgive me if I don’t believe your very first sentence. It’s just a bunch of people spouting nonsense and not backing it up with anything. If you provide even a single link (first hand source, not a lemmy comment) supporting your argument that it’s misinformation then I will gladly have a conversation with you about how bias ratings can be accurately created.

I said everyone is a hater because I did try to converse honestly earlier in the thread and people refused to provide any sort of proof of misinformation, literally going so far as to say I should just β€œgoogle it”. Sorry it’s not on me to provide proof for others claims.

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Memory unlocked: I remember when i came here during the Reddit exodus there were so many bots just cross posting from Reddit it was so overwhelming cus posts had no discussion going on they were just there

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52 points

Me after posting:

β€œOhh, a reply notification for my dank post”

Me reading my inbox:

β€œIt’s a fucking bot.”

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8 points

You can disable seeing bot replies in your settings.

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Ok I wanted to see what are we dealing with here.

The website for the factual check is a bit shady in my opinion.

For example the guardian from UK is mixed because of β€œmany failed fact checks over the last 5 years” I could only find 5 linked there and if that is all failed checks then it is still very good.

Then I looked at a news paper I know is the worst. BILD from Germany. It is also mixed. There was only one failed fact check linked and I don’t think the analysis which leads to the conclusion is transparent enough.

So we have a relatively good news paper from UK and a lying shit of paper from Germany and both are mixed. If mixed has this much variance it doesn’t mean anything.

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Read this website https://unwatch.org/

Then check what its MBFC rating is https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/un-watch/

All you need to know.

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My favourite is the BBC bias rating analysis . Pretty blatantly feels based with no elaboration given as to how it was determined to have 'biased story selection '. Everything written in the analysis is apparently completely irrelevant to the final rating.

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When reading through the few examples I got the hard feeling that left news were much more harshly checked than right news.

This proofs that.

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