He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide.

Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.

“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”

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Everyone who says “They’re both equally bad. I refuse to vote for either candidate because they both support genocide” can shut the fuck up now.

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I strongly suspect most of the people pushing that particular line aren’t eligible to vote… in American elections, that is.

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I don’t, I know what it was like to be an optimistic young adult. I understand the allure of holding strong to an ethical code while others’ compromises seem to make the progress all too slow.

The truth is that this shit takes time and requires a lot of pressure - and that’s a fucking bitter pill to swallow.

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I understand what you’re saying and I want to sympathize, but I feel like we’re so far outside the norm here that some of this falls a bit flat to me. Like we aren’t talking about being swayed by a wolf in sheep’s clothing here, Trump is a an entire pack of wolves loudly shouting “the wolves have arrived, fuck all you sheep!”

I think there was a point what you say rang true, but I can’t help but feel like we’re so off-course at this point that if you haven’t seen Trump for what he is yet it must be because you are WILLFULLY evading that reality.
I find it genuinely difficult to believe that anyone touting the “both sides are the same narrative” still, today, about Trump, can possibly truly believe that. I genuinely think you are only hearing from the mouths of charlatans, foreign agents, intentional accelerationists, and the absolute most genuinely ignorant of people. Maybe I’m jaded, but the alternative is legitimately incomprehensible to me at this point.

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There is something to this; however, there are historical examples of rather quick progress. FDR for one (public work projects and infrastructure, financial reforms, regulations, social security, etc.), when old and young, the president, government employees, the whole general public (with some exceptions), held to popular principles of egalitarian fairness against the few unconscionably rich. A time of tasty pills.

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Aren’t 70+ years enough time though? Those people are done. You can’t ask them to swallow bitter pills for that long of a time while also telling them to shut up because “you are enabling the enemy”. They have valid criticisms that some key people from the Democratic side are far too happy to ignore. Honest question…how do you compromise with an ongoing genocide in an apartheid state?

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Some of them no doubt, a lot of them are younger voters that are just sick of their country never having been sliding down into more and more blatant evil for their entire lives.

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Or ones who don’t understand propaganda when they see it

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They could have also shut the fuck up at any point previous, but we’ll accept “now” as well.

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THANK YOU. Jesus fucking Christ thank you. I’m so sick of this shit

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What are you talking about? My close friend from Texas Oblast who owns a barbecuing shop says this all the time!

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Ah yes, Texas-Oblast-Barbecuing-Joint next to famous warm water port, right?

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Da. His Name is Alexejohn Smith

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One is supporting genocide, but the other is actually doing it.

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Id prefer not to support the side that says “finish the job”

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I’d prefer neither, and in any case I’d still refuse to promise my vote to a party before the election. If Harris wants my guaranteed support she’ll have to start acting like it.

Now is the best time to push the party left, and genocide is the one issue I absolutely refuse to compromise on.

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I’m really tired of Trump not being in prison.

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I’m really tired of Trump not being in prison.

Yes, but I’m more tired of realizing he will never be in prison. There’s not a judge in the country that seems willing to do more than make him fork over a little of his pocket lint. And if it’s ever more than that, it’s still going to be an ankle bracelet and a 1% lifestyle.

One justice system for the rich and powerful, another for the rest of us.

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If Trump were ever facing real jail time, he would hie himself off to Russia or Saudi Arabia. Which would be better than nothing, to be sure.

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It would be great if nature took its course because the legal system never fucking will.

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Merrick Garland is such a disappointment.

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Assuming the election goes in a positive direction, this might be the feds just letting him make his own bed… and hopefully, they throw the book at him afterwards. It’s of course a moot point if he wins, for a lot of reasons.

Edit: fwiw I don’t disagree with the pessimism. Justice delayed is justice denied.

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It’s also moot if he dies. I’m really tired of the feds just letting him make his own bed.

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Yeah, I agree, the amount of pussyfooting is un-fucking-believable

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what book? The supreme court just ruled that presidents have immunity from criminal prosecution for anything that can be considered “official acts.” So nixon wouldn’t have to worry if he were president now.

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hopefully, they throw the book at him afterwards

This is the same genre as the people who insisted that Merrick Garland was just dotting his i’s and crossing his t’s before nailing Trump.

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Oh please, 6they seem to be waiting for Trump to walk right into a prison cellt, lock himself in and throw away the key

This bs excuse has been peddled since 2016

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If the election goes the right way we can have another 4 years of ccourthouse drama l. After which we will b back where we r today.

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Oh fuck no that’s not it.

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I’m tired of him not being in Hell.

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I think the last Republican presidential candidate to sabotage peace talks to help his own campaign was Richard Nixon in the Vietnam War, so Trump is just continuing their tradition of killing innocents for personal gain.

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Reagan sabotaged the Iran hostages deal

So it is rumored

And those are only the ones we know of; dealing in death is pretty standard fare for people high up in Washington

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It’s gonna be awesome in 20 years to hear of Reagans impeachment while the crops and natural world are collapsing. Progress!

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Bruh. Reagan.

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Throwback to Reagan’s team intentionally sabotaging negotiations for the Iran hostage crisis, so it would make Jimmy Carter look bad right before the election.

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With Roger fucken Stone lurking in the background in both situations.

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Also Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks.

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Yeah, Nixon got the presidency for it when it should’ve gotten him the rope. I don’t think trump will get either out of this

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Yhe gop needs to be banned.

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How did that not get him insta-arrested for treason.

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