The opposite of shopaholic: shopcell

I’ve had this conversation with the lady at the really good deli down the road from me! When I occasionally have a rare chance to go in there she says “we never see you anymore!” And I have to always remind her they only serve lunch from 11am to 3pm, my work starts at 11 and my lunch break is at 330 lol

This. If you work during the day anywhere around my town you have a good 30 minutes to do shopping before all the stores close at 4:30.

Never understood those hours, they lock out more than half of their potential customers

They want time to do stuff to.

That’s when they should introduce a second shift instead of just having one shift and one set of staff.

Then they can’t go an FB or Nextdoor and complain about people not shopping local.

all the grocery stores around me stopped being 24 hours so now i can never get anything after work except taco bell

I wish 24 hours was a thing again, my fiancee gets out at 12:00 and there is literally nothing open unless you want to drive an hour. Honestly i’d work a graveyard shift too, love the night

Add those local businesses for food or service type things that are more weekend things, but they close on Sundays cause JEBIS!

Fortunately lots of them also post political shit up in their business or signs whining that nobody wants to work, so I don’t even want to partake in most of them anyway.

If I see a sign in a business whining about workers or people not wanting to work, I will straight up leave and go somewhere else. Tells me everything I need to know about how the owner treats their workers.

This is exactly why we should have 4 day work weeks. Especially when you replace “shop” with “doctor’s office”

Doctor? Why would employers want you to see a doctor? If you make it to retirement age they have to pay that out and miss out on a cheaper replacement!

What you need are good laws, not so much a 4 day work week. I just go to the doctor during office hours and tell my employer I have to go. I even get paid time off for it, like everyone else working in this country. Same for the dentist or any other kind of medical thing.

Sure, it’s not always optimal if you work in some sort of shift, but they are required to make sure you can go.

By the way, not that I wouldn’t appreciate a 4 day work week, but this seems like a bit of a stretch to say that this is the reason why you would need one.

Yup. This is the way.

But I live and work in the US which means I have no paid days off at all and even if I tell them I have something to do they can call me to tell me to work and be upset if I don’t immediately come to the aid.

I really wish we just believed in reasonable work life balance but I will accept a shorter work week but that’s just gonna go to the upper classes only again.

Not sure if that would really help the whole availability issue. We already force a large population of physicians to be on call 24/7 because there aren’t enough to go around.

With an additional day off, more people can go to med school!

I also wonder if there would be more doctors if they didn’t have such an abusive onboarding process that doesn’t necessarily ever get any better after they finish their residence.

It seems like there’s a vicious cycle going on where the crazy hours lead to burnout, which leads to some people leaving, which then leads to more crazy hours to try to make up for the shortage.

Where I live, everyone gets paid leave when they need to see a doctor during working hours. Same is true for everything else that is “important”.

So 4 day work week for you, but 5 day work week for everyone else you would want to visit on Friday?

Nah, we should have different days off, duh. Let me have Wednesdays off, some peeps can have Fridays.

Actually, I would prefer to have weekdays off instead of weekends, easier to focus with less people at work.

But not necessarily the same four days as me.

Wait until you hear about banks lol
They open after everyone’s at work and close before anyone finishes work
Because fuck you, that’s why

Because banks’ primary customer is not Joe Everyman who works a 9-5. Their primary customers are other companies. Your checking account is barely even a drop in the bucket compared to the billion dollar company that has five hundred accounts set up for their various incomes and expenses.

But the reason there is a local bank branch in your neighborhood isn’t for that one business owner nextdoor to deposit their brief case of cash at 11am

Isn’t it, though? I mean this as a genuine question. The alternatives are to either buy a safe or to have tons of cash in your register at the end of every day, so I could honestly see banks getting plenty of business for this purpose, but maybe I’m wrong about that.

The local branch is for when average joes are doing a big transaction. So you take some time off of work to meet with the banker to complete the paperwork for your mortgage or other loan, or to setup your money market account, etc.

I bank at a local credit union. It’s a very small operation with only a few branches.

They have the same hours.

Funny thing is they’re there working after public hours. What are they doing? No one knows

guess the’re counting the money they ripped off from you without you noticing anything. counting that much can take hours !! ;-)

Reading the part of this article about London being paralysed by tube workers I could only think about the Crowdstrike shutting down millions of systems and yet, life went on as if it didn’t even happen unless you were yourself affected

A lot of bs paperwork and recounting, mostly.

No, because originally banks were for the wealthy that didn’t have to keep another man’s hours.

Sure, their physical office is closed outside of business hours, but they have a 24/7 website and a call centre that runs late into the night. The last time I physically visited a bank was years ago and they actually couldn’t answer my question and referred me to their call centre instead.

Outsourced and overseas call centers don’t count.

It’s called “Work from Home”. Not outsourced and overseas call center.

Seriously, I found out that my bank chain switched their opening hours to being 10a-4p and most branches are closed on the weekends. It’s not even 40 hours of opening time for the week!

What the fuck kind of a schedule is this? Granted, I’ve hardly ever needed to go to a branch in person because the majority of things can be done online or at an atm, but still. Some things you do occasionally need to visit in person for…like getting a cashier’s check which I had to do recently.

Thankfully the last time I needed one, I was able to drive far away to a location that was open for a couple of hours on Saturday but Jesus Christ.

Oh, now it’s great, there are apps. Before the internet it was misery and before ATMs it was just spiteful. The whole point seemed to be to make sure that you never get to extract cash from your accounts.

five o,clock is much to late for a bank to be open.

5 o’clock!? Are they having a sleepover?

Historically bank hours were because they had to count and tabulate every transaction and check for the day after closing, so historically “bank hours” meant very long working hours. Tabulators and computers greatly improved this of course

Anyone who works an office job should be able to set their own hours. I choose 6:30-2:30. I can still hit up local shops after. My colleague chooses 10-8 and shops before work. There’s no reason we can’t make this work.

I had a job once with core hours. Everyone had to be there 10 am to 2 pm, but you could decide when to come in and leave as long as you were there 8ish hours, and you were there during core hours.

That’s a pretty good idea.

Yeah, it kicked ass! Everyone was happy with their schedule, since they pretty much set it themselves.

For a lot of time, i thought the 12 hour clock was not that bad

Until i saw people excluding the AM/PM. What does 6:30-2:30 mean? Are you working -4 hours? Are you working from 18:30 to 2:30 or from 6:30 to 14:30? Why do people choose this time format?

Even though you’re right, context is also important. They’re talking about working in an office, so it shouldn’t be difficult to understand that they’re referring to working 8 hours, from 6:30 AM to 2:30 PM

Do all Europeans choose to purposefully misinterpret information that is actually very easy to understand based on context?

I think it’s worse that someone from programming.dev doesn’t understand time.

The meaning is clear in this context, but not all of them. Especially when instead of a range of hours it is a single one.

Although it is possible to determine they “probably meant this one”, why would you waste your time guessing based on context and risk being wrong when you can just use 24h and be precise.

I’m confused by this comment.
Do you not understand how to tell time?

Adding 12 to a number isnt that hard

Yeah my company doesn’t care when I come and go as long as I work 40 hours and don’t miss meetings. 4 day workweeks are generally frowned upon but you can do it now and then.

06:30-02:30 (note the 0!) means 6:30 am to 2:30 am the following day. Anything in pm would be +12 hours. 6:30 pm becomes 18:30; 2:30pm is 14:30. Using this format you want 06:30-14:30 which is 8 hours.

This format is important because it actually solves the problem you are trying to explain (am/pm). Regularly I need to give EST database timestamps for a PST server cluster while living in another timezone myself and speaking to someone in India which is :30min difference in time zones and trying to account for daylight savings. Removing am/pm just makes it easier to track what happens in different places without looking at the wrong time window. Time math is messy and stupid, be specific by using 24 hours instead of 12

Edit: I guess no one works in timestamps, keep on being terrible for the rest of us.

Edit 2: if you don’t understand how time works, reconsider your opinion. Spreading misinformation is damaging

I just subtract 2 after 1300. That’s what works quicker in my head.

1300 = 1pm.
1400 = 2pm.
1500 = 3pm.
And so forth.
It’s the same thing, but I just ignore the 1.

Why would anyone care about putting a 0 before the 6 in 6:30. It solves nothing

The company would have to hire more shitty middle managers to micro manage you during a wider amount of hours, we can’t have that.

I’m thankful I can do this. My employer measures performance based on what we actually do, not how long we work for.

I’m usually at work 10 AM to 6:30 PM (which helps avoid peak hour traffic), but I can come in and/or leave earlier or later and it’d be fine. I work from home two days a week, too.

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