cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18811470
The 92-page document will be voted on by delegates Monday evening.
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i mean, thats not surprising. both us parties support Israel no matter what.
I asked myself the same thing. Lots of layers to that. A foothold in the middle east is among them. A lot more surprising are the radical Christians that somehow like the radical Jews. Also selling guns, and a few more cultural things too.
Neither does Republican, right?
2M people live in Gaza. The death toll according to the Gaza Health Ministry is nearly 41,000.
The point I’m trying to make is that given what Trump has said about Gaza and Palestine in general, what reason do we have to believe that 41,000 won’t turn into 410,000 under a Trump presidency?
Nope, both want genocide. When do we start considering rejecting both entirely?
Once we get representational voting instead of first past the post. As long as we have first past the post, we vote for the not fascist, then we work at a local level.
So never, got it. Glad we can reconfirm that liberals will never actually push for change, just virtue signal and go to brunch until it’s time to vote again.
And I hate them for that… but funny enough I hate them less than the other idiots who want to dismantle my livelihood
Much like everyone else who shares that opinion, a viable third option that doesn’t throw the election to the right wing when you vote for it
So, nothing. You may not like the status quo, but you’ll continue to let genocide happen because you can’t vote it out, got it.
Plus, the Democrats are also right-wing, just not as right-wing.
6 downvotes, 0 replies. If you disagree with this person, why not explain why?
If Trump wins and implements a federal abortion ban that includes giving police the power to monitor any woman moving across state lines, I really wonder if people like this author will feel indifferent about not voting. I agree with many of the points she’s making but as much of an unpopular opinion it is among leftist spaces, I can’t say I’m a fan of those who choose not to vote in the next election.
What I really don’t understand about the author is that she’s seemingly making no distinction between the Republican plan for Israel/Palestine and the Democrats’ plan for Israel/Palestine. Dems are so far from perfect but good lord, are we really going to sit here and pretend that under a Trump presidency he wouldn’t just give Israel free reign to kill as many civilians as they want? And is this the part of the discussion where someone claims that Biden has already done that, and that it couldn’t get any worse?
Why would a leftist who is registered democrat give a shit about Trump? She isn’t trying to pressure trump to do anything, she isn’t voting for trump, she never supported trump and Trump has nothing to do with her goals. Further why have you spent any time whatsoever thinking about trump? It’s been 4 years, 4 years of the party you nominally support enabling genocide and you can’t even do the barest minimum to stop them from supporting that genocide?
Crazy. This was voted on by the delegates?
Are these the very same delegates who received their mandate as a result of the primary process in which Muslim voters overwhelmingly refused to submit even a single vote?
It’s almost as if you’re suggesting that refusing to participate in the democratic process means that your ideas will largely be discounted, as you bring literally nothing to the table in terms of political capital, but that just doesn’t seem quite right?
Look, I’m 100% for peace in Gaza & on earth more broadly, but you can’t refuse to return your RSVP and then act shocked that the host didn’t save you a place at the table.
This is baby brain. Are you suggesting that the difference between a democratic party that supports the genocide and one that doesn’t is a LACK of pressure on them?
Sorry, ad hominem attacks are not something I want to engage on today. Me and my baby brain will enjoy existing in the real world, enjoy your limited world view.
