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The 92-page document will be voted on by delegates Monday evening.

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i mean, thats not surprising. both us parties support Israel no matter what.

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2 points

What on earth is the political advantage ?

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5 points

An unsinkable aircraft carrier in the middle east to further the US’ imperial ambitions

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I asked myself the same thing. Lots of layers to that. A foothold in the middle east is among them. A lot more surprising are the radical Christians that somehow like the radical Jews. Also selling guns, and a few more cultural things too.

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I feel like there’s something bigger we’re missing. Both parties seem willing to gamble on losing the election over support for Israel, even now.

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And I hate them for that… but funny enough I hate them less than the other idiots who want to dismantle my livelihood

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What would it take for you to reject both?

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Much like everyone else who shares that opinion, a viable third option that doesn’t throw the election to the right wing when you vote for it

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Voting in elections is literally the least engagement you can possibly have with governance without it being none at all. It’s okay to “throw your vote away” if you are actually engaged. You make more of a difference in one day than any vote you cast makes.

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So, nothing. You may not like the status quo, but you’ll continue to let genocide happen because you can’t vote it out, got it.

Plus, the Democrats are also right-wing, just not as right-wing.

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6 downvotes, 0 replies. If you disagree with this person, why not explain why?

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Haven’t downvoted anyone. Though also replied to none, as the reply about dropping both parties is sadly a pipe dream and didn’t need a reply, its essentially feeding whataboutism and just don’t care to engage.

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Of course not. That’s way too fine to tightrope for them to walk for it to be summed up in a platform at the convention. I hate that it’s that way, but it’s a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation for them. Therefore it’s an entirely numbers-based strategy, no matter what the actual may believe.

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Crazy. This was voted on by the delegates?

Are these the very same delegates who received their mandate as a result of the primary process in which Muslim voters overwhelmingly refused to submit even a single vote?

It’s almost as if you’re suggesting that refusing to participate in the democratic process means that your ideas will largely be discounted, as you bring literally nothing to the table in terms of political capital, but that just doesn’t seem quite right?

Look, I’m 100% for peace in Gaza & on earth more broadly, but you can’t refuse to return your RSVP and then act shocked that the host didn’t save you a place at the table.

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Genocide is not a special interest group issue.

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This is baby brain. Are you suggesting that the difference between a democratic party that supports the genocide and one that doesn’t is a LACK of pressure on them?

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Sorry, ad hominem attacks are not something I want to engage on today. Me and my baby brain will enjoy existing in the real world, enjoy your limited world view.

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Good. Fuck off, you genocidal piece of shit. You think not engaging with my interrogation of your position makes it go away to an outside reader instead of making it the last word?

Baby brain.

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Neither does Republican, right?

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Didn’t Trump say that Israel should just “finish the job”?

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What job is there to finish? Biden already flattened Gaza.

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2M people live in Gaza. The death toll according to the Gaza Health Ministry is nearly 41,000.

The point I’m trying to make is that given what Trump has said about Gaza and Palestine in general, what reason do we have to believe that 41,000 won’t turn into 410,000 under a Trump presidency?

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I believe so, yes.

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Nope, both want genocide. When do we start considering rejecting both entirely?

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Once we get representational voting instead of first past the post. As long as we have first past the post, we vote for the not fascist, then we work at a local level.

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So never, got it. Glad we can reconfirm that liberals will never actually push for change, just virtue signal and go to brunch until it’s time to vote again.

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They have that voting system in both Japan and Australia, doesn’t make a bit of difference, still capitalist dictatorships. Australia is also still carrying out their eviction of its indigenous peoples under that system, just like the US.

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The Wiemar Republic had a parliamentary system

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