Someone should submit a resolution to the UN security council ordering both Russia and Ukraine to go back to the 2013 borders. And then Russia can do what it wants with their vote and veto.
I’m not exactly sure what happened between 1991 and 2013 around there, but I’d argue that they should have the original indepencence borders and that’s it. But it’s not my call by any stretch, Ukraine and their people are the ones who should settle where the border is.
And the global west should support their cause. Sure, it’s not particulary easy for anyone right now, but for the majority of the people in EU supporting Ukraine is financially mostly a inconvenience. You might pay a slightly bit more on your bread and butter, but currently no one is coming for you with guns, which is very much a reality in Ukraine right now.
isn’t ukraine asking for the 2013 borders? i believe “the west” is literally saying it’s up to ukraine to decide and we will support them
I don’t know how willing they are to give up Crimea and I suppose one of the reasons the war is happening now is that the west closed their eyes when Russia annexed areas from Ukraine. At least on the news Crimea is often described as ‘temporarily occupied’, so I think at least offically they’re targeting 1991 borders.
But yeah, it’s solely up to Ukraine, and I believe they’ll have very similar support regardless of the border, at least as long as they’re not claiming anything beyond 1991 borders from Russia.
i mean that’s still not even… ukraine has a country to rebuild and even stevens would include reparations for both loss of life and rebuilding
a compromise is russia gets the fuck out of ukraine and ukraine begrudgingly accepts that this is better than more war and then starts dealing with the consequences of russias aggression
Y’know Dmitry, if you had kept your army inside your own borders we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.
Russia has total control over the situation and could end the Kursk assault overnight if they really wanted to. This is entirely their problem that they’ve created.
“I would be grateful for the explanation how intentionally targeting civilians serves the goal of disrupting attacks on Ukrainian territory, given the fact that there were no military objects or infrastructure in the area,” he said.
So the T-80s and T-90 that Ukraine has captured so far are use for delivering pizza? Also, if you give Ukraine a bit more time to get deeper into Russia they’ll get to the part of Russia where much more of the military objects and infrastructure are.
Oh the irony…
“I would be grateful for the explanation how intentionally targeting civilians serves the goal of disrupting attacks on Ukrainian territory, given the fact that there were no military objects or infrastructure in the area,” he [Dmitry Polyanskiy, Russia’s Deputy U.N. Ambassador] said.
Holy crap! Tell me that you’ve been sleeping under a rock for the last 3 years without saying that you’ve been sleeping under a rock for the last 3 years…
