Today, I’m embarking on a 30 day experiment to see if I can live (and do my job) in the modern world without a smartphone.

Why?

I’ve been a tech enthusiast all my life: always had to have the latest, greatest, newest, and shiniest gadget I could afford. Here lately, it feels like the tech is taking over and just making me miserable. “Always connected”, notification fatigue, endless doom scrolling, "download our app for [super basic thing that shouldn’t require an app], etc. I love my smartphone, but I feel like it’s a “ball and chain” that’s causing me unneeded stress.

I’ve been wanting to try this for some time, but the “killer app”, so to speak, on my smartphone is hospot mode. I use that heavily for both work and personal use, and I only recently realized that modern “dumb” phones could do that now. Suddenly this experiment became possible, so I bought a cheap dumb phone and decided to give it a try.

So, can I go 30 days without a smartphone, and will I see any quality of life improvements (or perhaps the opposite)? Only one way to find out.

Conditions of the experiment:

I bought a modern-era “dumb” flip phone and moved my SIM to it yesterday evening. It’s not a true “dumb” phone, though. It runs a stripped down version of Android, so I’m able to install a few “must have” apps that I need such as my MFA and credit union app. I made a concession with the banking app since the closest branch office is 45 minutes away (I don’t consider the MFA app to be a concession since some of the dumber dumb phones had support for at least TOTP generators).

That’s it for the apps. No email, IM/chat apps, web browser, etc (though I can run all of those it seems). The only “apps” will be the ones that would be standard for a dumb phone of the mid 2000s (calendar, camera, alarm, music player, etc). I’ve already connected it over USB and loaded up era-appropriate music from my local collection 😆

Rules:

  1. I’ll allow myself to carry my smartphone (w/o SIM card) in my bag, powered off, in case I do need it for something urgent, but I won’t carry it on my person or use it beyond immediate need. Will connect to my “dumb” phone via its hotspot for internet.
  2. If I do need to break out the old smart rectangle, I should look to see if there is a way to accomplish what I need without it.
  3. This experiment cannot interfere with my job duties.
  4. I’ve setup an SMS bridge on my server to forward certain critical alerts. I used to do this back when all phones were dumb phones, so I don’t feel it’s breaking the spirit of the experiment. These will only be “the datacenter is on fire” level alerts, so I don’t anticipate many (or any).

So, here goes. I’m not sure what to expect or how this will turn out and even less sure I’ll make it the full 30 days. Wish me luck.

11 points

What make and model of cheap “dumb” phone did you choose? And how’s it running so far?

I might one day try something similar, but my experience with cheap hasn’t been good, and if it can barely turn on like a certain cheap tablet I once had, the experiment would end quickly.

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Cat S22 Flip for like $65. Seems made for TMobile (which is who I have) but may work with other carriers since it’s sold unlocked. Was originally looking at the Nokia 2780 (which seems well-reviewed) but went with this one instead since it was a bit cheaper and I wasn’t sure I needed it for more than a 30 day experiment.

This one is chonky, but it’s designed for like construction workers and such, so that’s technically a feature.

Have only been using it since yesterday, but so far so good (within expectations, anyway). It’s also several years old (ca. 2021) and unsupported by the manufactuter, but for the purposes of this experiment, it’s good enough. It’s definitely a weird form factor to see Android in, but it works. Just don’t expect to do anything major with it. (i.e. treat it like a dumb phone).

It’s supports both hotspot and voice over LTE (VoLTE) and wifi calling, so that covers my main use cases as a phone and mobile internet connection.

It’s also kind of cool how quickly I got back into T9 typing. Was a bit awkward at first since it’s been nearly 2 decades since I last had to type like that, but after texting with a friend for a while yesterday, it all came back.

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Thanks!

Nah, the point would be to use it as a dumb phone, but as you point out it’s still Android, a “Smart” OS compacted into a “Dumb” shell, not a purpose built dumb phone OS. My concern would be the (lack of) optimization or bloat of said OS causing poor performance that results in a bad experience navigating even the dumb functions. The tablet I mentioned for example(RCA), you could make a sandwich between basic app launches…

Either way, enjoy the experience!

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Yeah, that’s definitely a check in the “con” column for sure, lol.

There are a few custom ROMs available for it (some de-googled, some not) that I’m probably going to flash once my 30 day experiment is over. The only bloatware I couldn’t remove was the TMobile app, but I neutered it by removing all of its permissions lol.

Overall, it’s still mostly a dumb phone on steroids and pretty responsive (even internet browsing wasn’t too awful before I disabled the browser). I’m hoping it can be a step toward an actual dumb phone (which is also why I chose it over the Nokia).

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Hey, good luck! I keep mine silenced and out of sight and just use the wifi hotspot for internet, VOIP etc. Didn’t know dumb phones could do that, else that’s what I’d have!

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Thanks!

Yeah, I tried the whole “out of sight, out of mind” thing but apparently didn’t have the self-discipline to make it stick. Kind of forcing myself with this experiment lol. Also why I drafted the rules to keep myself on task.

I think it was only 4-5 days ago that I found out modern “dumb” phones could do hotspot. At least, all the ones I saw that were running KaiOS (e.g. most of the ‘dumb’ Nokia phones) or Android Go edition have that support.

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I’ve done this as well. Coming up with the technical solution to design the life you want is one thing, but a common pitfall is that you’re going to get bored shitless (which is a good thing!) and you’ll crave getting back online. It’s important to be cognisant of this fact beforehand and have a strategy for dealing with it.

Read books, take walks, find a meaningful way to spend your time. Eventually you will get rid of the itch and it will feel liberating. Good luck!

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Read books, take walks, find a meaningful way to spend your time

That’s the goal :)

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I’ve been living this life for a while. I initially was holding out for a FOSS smartphone but, by the time anything libre came to market, I had been living without a smartphone for so long that it made me realize how pleasant life is without carrying a mobile device around.

will I see any quality of life improvements (or perhaps the opposite)?

This depends on your outlook. If quality of life to you means integrating with society and not being the odd girl out, then expect decline. But the Kaczinski life can be pretty great… sans the bombs, of course.

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I’ve done this before. Not intentionally but my phone needed repairs and the place doing the repairs kept screwing up so I went a good couple months without a phone.

Surprisingly you get used to it fast and it doesn’t become a big deal. The hardest transition was remembering phone numbers if I needed to call someone.

Also I was constantly printing out driving directions like some sort of boomer haha.

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Also I was constantly printing out driving directions like some sort of boomer haha.

Haha, nice. Adapt and overcome.

This one has maps and GPS, but I haven’t used them yet other than verify they can find me sitting on my couch lol. I was able to transfer my numbers, so I’m good there. I think there are like 5 people in the world whose phone numbers I remember, and 2 of them are still correct 😆

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