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Sadly, there are a bunch of Nazi punk bands.

Hence the song Nazi Punks Fuck Off by the Dead Kennedys.

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I’m sure you’re not wrong, but the song was written for concert goers, not fellow bands. Jello noticed some far right members of the audience and he was not having it.

I can’t really think of any halfway successful right wing punk acts. I guess I wouldn’t trust GG Allin not to vote for Trump.

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  • Smut Peddlars
  • The Misfits
  • Sex Pistols
  • Ramones

All display right wing politics and achieved fame. The overall punk scene, yeah, is overwhelmingly leftist, which from my perspective is right and good, but we do need to be honest about the fact that Nazi punks both exist AND can fuck off

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Aside from smut peddlars, haven’t all of those mostly achieved fame first and then revealed to be right wingers? Not super familiar with the scene so I may be wrong.

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I think Johnny Rotten just lost his marbles as he got older. Live a long life of saying unfiltered controversial statements and you’ll wake up one day just being an old conservative fart. But at that point he’s hardly a representative of the punk movement.

As for Johnny Ramone… Yeah, point well taken. Still, one could argue it’s at least a different ballpark than the America first Kid Rock lunatics, but it’s meager comfort.

The Misfits and the Smut Peddlars I don’t know well enough to comment on.

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“a bunch” is probably overselling. i would say it is possible to find nazi punk bands

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Punks be like: “NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!!!”

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38 points

Ah, punks. Those famously establishment-loving scamps.

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6 points

They love the cops!

/s

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God. I miss the days of these requests and bridge burning as a young punk. “Oh you don’t want us to mention x y z” First song talk about whatever weird thing they don’t want you to. “Oh you don’t want us to swear?” First song getting the crowd to chat give me a f.u.c.k. “Oh we need to turn it down?” Crank it on the second song. We are young and angry and we were never expecting to get paid this all means nothing to us. Side note. Always be nice to the staff and sound person they are just doing their bullshit jobs.

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A guy with a mohawk on stage streaming about how you need to conform to the establishment and listen to the man?

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Nah, they want racist skinhead punks. Back when I was in the scene (I know, shut up grandpa) they were around. They got kicked out of pretty much every place we played because they were fucking shitbags repping the aryan nation bullshit and no one wanted to be around them. So they’d have their own Nazi bars and shitty venues to play. One group I knew played for a lot of events at a local racist biker gang clubhouse.

They may not be skinheads anymore, but the type still exists. Biker gangs (not motorcycle clubs as a whole, the specific subculture which makes up a very tiny percent of both riders and clubs) are very anti-establishment and many of them are at least racially exclusive, with many more leaning into outright hate crimes.

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“One percenters” is the term for the criminal motor cycle clubs. They are despicable, anti American pieces of shit.

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Yeah, I wasn’t sure how many people knew that so I was trying to invoke a specific image.

You’re right. They are absolute pieces of shit, and there are groups that cosplay it as well. I ride (solo, not into MCs in general) and run into 1%ers sometimes. I run into the wannabes more often, who are also slightly different kinds of pieces of shit and in a lot of cases are more dangerous to individuals because they’re trying really hard to be taken seriously.

Most MCs are pretty neutral and just like to ride. Some are quite lovely (BACA generally, and some of the ones who do a bunch of charity stuff) and a bunch are slightly shitty have some backwards ass attitudes.

The MC I was talking about is into organized crime (mostly meth and gun running) and white power.

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I have known exactly one MC that tried to be inclusive of LGBTQ+ people, women, and non-white people. They ended up being forced to be a supporter MC for the dominant MC of the area–you do this if you don’t want to have ‘unfortunate incidents’ happen to you–and ended up not being allowed to have women and black/Latino people in their club. They disbanded following the death of one of their founding members.

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