We are lucky we got Tim Walz instead of Newsom. Tim really cares about outcomes but Gavin is all about appearances.
This is the political landscape in a nutshell. Someone from the left makes a statement backed by reality about bettering society then someone on the right says some childish shit and name calls. How perfect.
There is no art to counter propaganda beyond noting that not everybody is larping regime propaganda for the readers.
News and Politics subs are cess pool.
This is fucking insane. He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn’t take time.
Bad enough that the camps are being broken up. They literally have nowhere to go but prison. Oh well, at least the private prisons are making their slave quotas.
He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn’t take time.
He says that occasionally, but that’s not really what he wants, he just wants homeless people gone out of sight and out of the minds of his donors and their customers. If they disappear into housing that’s fine, but he’s ok with other solutions too so long as they happen now now now
Los Angeles County, in particular, has become a frequent target of Newsom’s ire. The governor again criticized the county on Thursday for delaying implementation of a law that expands the criteria for people to be detained against their will.
Absolutely. He’s not an idiot. He knows he’s asking the impossible when he says shit like this.
it would be impolite to say so though. 🤷♀️ sorry. can’t listen, you’re rude for accusing someone of doing something only a total piece of shit would do, implying that he’s a total piece of shit. what kind person would even DO that?
maybe we could listen to you if you also said it was fine and good?
Apartments take a few months to build. There are standard designs they build over an over again in different locations. I realize CA has earthquakes and maybe cannot take a design from Ohio (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they could), but there should be plenty of designs that meet codes. If they cannot build thousands of apartments in a year the problem isn’t the time it is they are doing something to make it not possible to build that fast.
Building should be by right - no need to ask the neighbors for permission or get a review (for a standard design that doesn’t do anything unusual), just half hour to get the permit and then a few routine inspections along the way.
You read what he’s saying in the article, because the implication is pretty clear that he’s saying, “you house these people right now or else” as if that’s possible.
He has been threatening for a while now. If they haven’t made significant progress it is because they are not trying to.
Wow. My building was finished 6 months ago after a 3-year process.
I envy your comparatively-overnight build. Pouring the foundation (parking) alone is a month for 5 storeys for the new one going in next door, and then concrete for each level is at least another fortnight. That’s like a year alone just for the concrete skeleton, let alone the infrastructure and then build of the units.
maybe California shouldn’t have a 3-5 YEAR waitlist for section 8/Housing Choice Vouchers housing?
maybe they should force all those empty retail/commercial/industrial/residential properties to be put to use or forced to hand over to the state.
maybe the church of scientology shouldnt be allowed to own thousands of buildings in california with no stated purposed or published staff?
Maybe they should also start building more apartments at rent controlled rates?
Its not just about the empty spots. Those are owned.
Its about the rich people denying apartments to maintain the clean skyline.
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Nah, I’m with Num10ck. There are more than enough houses with existing infrastructure to utilities. Putting up more homes is wasteful and adds carbon into the air.
The state has the power to levy a heavy vacancy tax on unoccupied spaces. I think thats the best route to getting people housed.
Oh I also agree we need to tax unoccupied housing. On a sliding scale too since there are land barons rampant in our nation.
This would force real estate companies to fill homes that costs them loads to keep empty. Instantly increasing supply and thus cost of rent goes down.
Rent control disincentivizes building new apartments though. That is, if I take out a load of debt to build a $10M apartment, and due to rent control my profit is going to be capped at levels that are probably below what I could get through low-risk treasury bills, why would I build anything? Sure, you can get it built by the state, but states have a distressing tendency to stop adequately funding required infrastructure and not do necessary maintenance in a timely fashion (more so than most shitty apartment complexes even).
I entirely agree that NIMBYs need to be steamrolled though. High-density housing is far, far better than sprawl.
My wet dream is dead malls converted to indoor cities. Turn old shops into efficiency apartments, the huge end cap stores like Boscovs into grocery stores, food court into cafeteria-style dining. Hell, even keep some food places or shops if you want to get some capitalists hard. Just charge them rent out the ass in exchange for a nearly captive consumer base and use the funds to improve the place.
Maybe Newsom should focus on NIMBY laws that prevent affordable housing.
Breaking up homeless encampments doesn’t fix the fact that these people have nowhere to live! What a cruel policy.
Why not emminent domain overpriced apartment buildings owned by the Saudis, Chinese, and Russians, and give the apartments away the homeless. Problem solved.
Yeah, so simple!
Those apartments world devolve into a human trafficking, crime ridden drug overdose havens in no time. Mental health support for them is needed first.
You get them in a stable living arrangement first, and then that makes mental health support exponentially easier.
Housing first policies work everywhere they’re tried.
Please link the studies to change my mind. Otherwise, apologies for sounding rude, but you are full of bullshit lies.
I never understood people like you. That the moment you help someone, the result will obviously be the worst outcome? So better not help them at all?
You don’t understand because your never consider the consequences of your actions.
Providing shelter for everyone is a basic human need.
But forcing mentally ill people mixed together with financially downtrodden unhoused people into a Kowloon City type environment without considering their ability to maintain their cleanliness and safety without imposing jack-booted level of policing is another level of stupid I can’t force out of you without an hours long face-to-face lecture where you and I can discuss like two friendly normal people.
