Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
Context: Reddit made a few controversial annoucements, feel free to have a look at !reddit@lemmy.world
For people wanting to discuss why some people focus on Lemmy’s growth, here is a recent thread from !asklemmy@lemmy.world :
Hey congratulations you discovered a statistical anomaly.
It may be, but could you try making the same remark without sounding like a toxic asshole?
Probably due to Reddit fuckary. Between power-hungry, ban-happy mods and Reddit talking about possibly charging for select subs, I definitely bailed and came here.
Two days old today, baaabbby!!
Doing my part tho! I’ve created 5 communities and have posted over 100 times in the last two days. :)
Thank you! But wow, the people in the c/poltics sub are convinced I am a “media manipulator” because my account is only a few days old and I have started communities. lol
People in political communities can be a bit opinionated. Hopefully it will fade away as your account will get older
Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I’d rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren’t here yet. Where are the cross post bots?
Which content are you interested in?
https://lemmit.online/ can be used to crosspost content from Reddit, but you won’t get much comments as people tend to prefer content curated by humans
!newcommunities@lemmy.world has a weekly thread with active communities.
The content/users aren’t here so I’m stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.
Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.
Although I understand it’s not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;
I was never much of an /r/all user, it’s always been niche communities for me. I feel like almost all of my niches have content here now (if not quite as much engagement as I’d like). !retrogaming@lemmy.world in particular has exploded with activity lately and arguably can now serve as a full replacement for its subreddit counterpart.
Thing is, when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it’s always “why?” and if I make it that far, “how?” With the how, I’ve been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it’s still not as smooth as it could be. Eyes glaze over when anyone starts asking me about how the Fediverse in general works.
The why is harder. I don’t know how much user bleed-over niche Reddit got from /r/all users but I’m guessing it wasn’t a trivial amount. I’m sure a lot of Reddit’s growth was owed to AMAs, so it’s possible Lemmy might need something flashy to draw in users who will then filter into communities waiting for them. Some sort of content unique to the platform. I do think before we get there we need a friendlier way to help new people find communities they may have interest in.
when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it’s always “why?” and if I make it that far, “how?” With the how, I’ve been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it’s still not as smooth as it could be.
You don’t have to bother with that. Just send them to a single instance to sign up. Stable, general-purpose instances like lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, or lemmy.zip are good recommendations. You don’t really need to understand the details of how federation works to start using Lemmy. They can learn as they go.
That’s what I’m doing. I got 2 subs that I frequented on Reddit I’m running, one is a sports one with discussions for the events, and it’s literally just me putting commentary into it. But that’s what I loved about the Reddit sports subs, so I’ll at least have it for when people come here.
Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.
For people in similar situations, !fedigrow@lemm.ee
I don’t have the time. This just fills the empty gaps in my day, before bed winding down
Isn’t that how it always goes. Everyone wants the end result, but nobody wants to do the work.
Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.
But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy’s scaled algorithm still doesn’t get it quite right IMO.
Scaled is intentionally promoting communities with fewer subscribers. It’s intentionally demoting the most active posts bt demoting any posts from the communities with more subscribers.
Scaled is amazing for the Subscribed feed, because I’m (obviously) interested in the small communities that I’m subscribed to. But it’s not quite the same when browsing All or Local. Usually I do stick to Subscribed though.
Just… content. I open my Lemmy app once and I’ve seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days. I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.
Just… content.
I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.
If all you want is “content” you can browse Lemmy by /all, sort by new, and also scroll for hours. That isn’t how I use Lemmy (or Reddit) though, and it’s not how I would recommend using it.
I open my Lemmy app once and I’ve seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days.
I almost exclusively browse by subscribed. When I first came to Lemmy, I kept subscribing to communities until I had too much content in my subscribed feed to keep up with. Over time, I’ve gradually unsubscribed to communities I’m only tangentially interested in, as communities for my main interests have grown.
Do you think an approach like this would work for you?
Active accounts is not active users. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if the number of active users is half of the active account number.
More realistic than mainstream social media platforms. On Lemmy, the number of active users is measured by posts, comments and votes.
I think that’s a mistake, but also the point is that saying users when you mean accounts is lying to yourself. Users here have multiple accounts, I have 7.
Yes, almost almost all of us have more than one account, but not everyone uses more than one account at the same time. I think these numbers are correct. There should be a margin of deviation of at most 10%.
It is lower from where it was in june (48.472) and the data seem to indicate a negative trajectory , also lemmy donations seem to be the lowest i remember them to be.
So i would not get too confident, the project IMO needs to focus on highly requested killer features. My impression they focusing too much on technical issues that don’t seem to be really important in a way that reminds me of the infamous The CADT Model rant of Jamie Zawinski. Do we really need to do a UI rewrite?
Hopefully Sublinks, PieFed or Mbin will be ready soon so that we can ditch Lemmy entirely.
At this point i think piefed feels better with it’s ability to subscribe to posts and comments and incrementally read stuff, and also the wiki system . mbin reportedly has multireddits but i played with it and could not figure out how to enable it. but piefed still didn’t have a beta release.
The CADT model…that was a short but fun read. I have definitely encountered that model many times in the various jobs.
Years ago, when I was a developer, I loved fixing bugs in other people’s code. I felt like I learned a lot from that, and I got a sense of accomplishment out of it. It made users happy, it made my boss happy, and the puzzle solving aspect of it was fun. I was what they called a “maintenance programmer” which was something of an insult, but I didn’t mind.
Unfortunately most developers I know hate everyone else’s code, think others’ code is “garbage” (every single time) and they definitely have a lot more fun building something from scratch than doing bug fixes. They even hate their own code once it’s a few months old. Always chasing for the perfect architecture, etc. Which is unfortunate, there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
TF2 community greatly values efforts of The Janitor - sole full-time developer, fixing old bugs in TF2.
there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
Value created doesn’t translate to value extracted and VCs and managers and marketers and the general public fork over more money in exchange for new shiny than old, reliable, maintained. There are few exceptions.
I was so confused when I heard about lemmy-ui-leptos, it really sounds like a waste of time to me 🤷♂️
I’m sure everyone has a different opinion, but I think the most important new feature should be the plugin system. It seems like the only way to scale up the number of contributors and support a variety of languages.
