After seeing that my wireless speeds were much faster than the speeds I was getting over Ethernet, I decided to invest in some new cables. I didn’t know it before, but I saw while I was changing them out that my current cables were Cat 5e. While putting my network together, I had just been grabbing whatever cables I could find in my scrap drawers. Now I have Cat 8 cables and my speeds jumped from 7MB/s to an average of over 40MB/s. It’s a much bigger improvement than I expected, especially for such a small investment.

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Cat8 is pointless with gigabit equipment as far as speed goes. Cat6 will do 10gig, you just had bad cables.

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Yep. I’m running 1/1Gbps wan connection over cat5e just fine. Even on very noisy environment at work with a longish run (70+ meters) we ran pretty damn stable 1/1Gbps over good quality cat7.

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I tried running a 1/1Gbps connection over Cat5e at home too, but for some reason, I couldn’t get it to connect properly. Ended up switching to Cat6, and it finally stabilized. I’m still scratching my head over why the Cat5e didn’t work as expected.

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At work where cable runs are usually made by maintenance people the most common problem is poor termination. They often just crimp a connector instead of using patch panels/sockets and unwind too much of the cable before connector which causes all kinds of problems. With proper termination problems usually go away.

But it can be a ton of other stuff too. Good cable tester is pretty much essential to figure out what’s going on. I’m using 1st gen version of Pocketethernet and it’s been pretty handy, but there’s a ton of those available, just get something a bit better than a simple indicator with blinking leds which can only indicate if the cable isn’t completely broken.

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Wonder if the cables replaced by OP were user-made, not commercial cables, that were our together incorrectly.

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They had been collected from various ISP provided modems and routers I’ve purchased over the years.

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100m is the spec max. More than that, you need a powered repeater (i.e. baby switch). And you won’t get 100m if you have bad cables.

I once saw a run in a cruise terminal, out of the cruise ship, down the gangway, along the terminal hallway, and through two more little switches just sitting on the floor next to an outlet. Not sure why they needed that run, but that’s what they did and it worked.

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Cat 5e

The fact that your old cable was cat5e has no bearing whatsoever on you getting shit speeds before changing cables. The gigabit spec was codified and products were on the market before the cat5e spec was ratified. Gigabit ethernet was literally made for standard cat5. I bet your previous cable was terminated incorrectly, and was only using two of the four pairs, limiting you to 100mbit.

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Bingo!

Proper termination can be a bitch.

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Orange white, orange

Green white, blue

Blue white, green

Brown white, brown

Learned it 20 years ago, never used it. how did I do?

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You pass! I’ve done several thousands of these over the past decade.

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Now do the A spec.

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yeah I did this almost 30 years ago and could recite it from scratch, haven’t made a cable since hs

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I forget the order 5 times in the middle of crimping each side, so you’re doing better than me.

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Ewwww orange first? Why are you making a crossover cable backwards for?

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It’s highly likely that you had one or more bad-but-not-dead cables (like a weak termination) that was limiting your speed. By swapping everything out you fixed the problem. Cat 5e to 8 definitely shouldn’t have caused that much if a jump (if any).

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Absolutely correct. CAT 5e should be able to max out at 125MB/s.

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It may do more at short distances with good connectors and if fully copper. The OP definitely had poor termination and/or broken wires.

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Cat5e works fine for gigabit. If it’s not connecting at 1G, then the cable has been damaged and is probably connecting at 100M.

You should be seeing about 118MB/s in an iperf test on gigabit ethernet.

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This. I’ve had issues at work while imaging classroom computers where some would finish in ~30 minutes and a few would need hours. All of the computers used Cat6 cables. This being a classroom, and students being absolute wankbags, they kept yanking the computers and kicking the cables, so the wires came loose from the plugs. I later used ethtool to debug the slow computers – the switch would only allow 10baseT link modes.

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For later reference, the link light on most network cards is a different colour depending on link speed. Usually orange for 1G, green for 100M and off for 10M (with data light still blinking).

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But that depends on the card. And some gigabit devices won’t do 10Mb at all.

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My guess you had broken cables or defective connectors. Because even on cat5 (not cat5e) you should get much more than 7mbit, or did you have coaxial? LoL.

In my experience 90% are plugs, specially if you crimped yourself with Chinese tools

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