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How much AI do you want in your browser: ( ) None ( ) Zero ( ) I want my browser to automatically close any page that mentions AI

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Which of these options do you prefer:

( ) having an AI assistant integrated into the browser

( ) getting kicked in the balls by elon musk

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11 points

A genuinely tough decision

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Well, getting kicked in the balls is a one-time affair, and I’m done having kids anyway, so I’d go with that.

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4 points

i guess daddy musk is coming to make my dreams come true

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12 points

hi we’re the marketing team and we already decided what we want to do, and we can make up whatever data you want to see for us to justify it!

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8 points

More like

  • 2x slower browser

  • AI

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that question seemed directly made by some software dev that shares my opinion lol

i picked 2x slower browser over ai because at least if it is gonna be slower im not gonna be harassed by some amalgamation of every incel shitpost on the Internet

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70 points

What country do you live in: Germany, United States, Brazil, other

What? Weird survey options.

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Data retention would be my guess.

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7 points

Very weird, because it’s not sorted alphabetically. That means there is a bias in the sorting, because the first option is default and the best option for most users.

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8 points

They are sorted at random for each visitor.

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Oh I meant this as a joke, to place Germany as the best answer.^^ But regardless, good to know its random. Probably doesn’t even matter.

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could just be the countries with the most users or where they’ve seen a recent trend, up or down, in local market share.

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I didn’t see that question, but all 3 of those countries seem to rank pretty high on the country demographics for FOSS that I’ve seen (as in when individual FOSS projects do demographics surveys of their users)

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It has always been

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1 point

Someone being funny? BUG

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64 points

i don’t like how they used “want least”, it means three very different things:

  • i want this but it’s not the thing i want the most
  • i don’t care for this
  • oh god fuck no
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That’s why they did it in sets of three. They could just give every user a blank text box for every option, but doing it this way makes it far easier to analyze the data in bulk.

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yea, but that gives you less info

this way, you can’t really differentiate from a feature that people want, but not as a priority, VS a feature that people don’t want ever

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And there’s no way to relate preference between features, at least in my case. I had one question that I entered “2x faster performance” as most want, and the next question was “2x slower performance,” but there was another crappy option in the same list that I also don’t want, so if I don’t pick “2x slower performance” as least want, what signal does that send?

I hope it all comes out in the wash, but honestly, I would’ve preferred a big list of all of the features with 4 options:

  • really want
  • want
  • meh
  • don’t want

I think I would’ve entered about even numbers of things for each category. They could even limit “really want” to top three or something.

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3 points

It makes the survey easier to complete by users in small steps. Huge surveys scare users away.

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5 points

The survey design accounts for this. See https://lemm.ee/comment/13835466.

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49 points

Which of the following attributes would you most want your new browser to have, and which would you want least?

Twice as slow as your current browser

Is that a joke?

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Control question probably, to check if you actually read the questions.

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I forgot those exist and interpreted it as “Would you sacrifice performance for one of these features?”

Am I stupid?

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I also thought it was a feature vs performance question. How can it be used as a control question?

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2 points

Mozilla might be insane

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That’s how I treated it too. I took it at face value.

I have modern hardware so I don’t care too much about browser performance. All browsers perform well on my hardware. Obviously some are more lightweight and optimised, but I have no doubts about my ability to comfortably browse the web on my hardware, so all the performance questions I tended to rank in the middle (ie not most or least important) as I don’t tend to notice browser performance.

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9 points

Makes sense. What about those who click that option as a joke? Maybe discount all other replies from that person because of that too?

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11 points

I mean, fair?

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Or what if they don’t click it by joke, but because they actually prefer a 2x slower browser over such a feature?

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7 points

lol, yeah. 👍

I was doing a political poll just the other day and the third or fourth question was a color question like: “Which of the following is associated most with a ripe banana?”

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2 points

Eh, how ripe are we talking?

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I debated because I really disliked another option in there (I think it was split-screen for AI or something stupid) and it felt like it was designed to make me not rank something else I didn’t like as least desired.

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For me that was together with

A privacy-respecting AI assistant that makes your browser smarter by learning how you use it

So I don’t really care how slow the browser is, as long as it doesn’t have an AI “assistant” that is monitoring my browser usage

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I wouldn’t mind an AI assistant, as long as it’s fully local.

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But why? If you want that, you can just have it outside of your browser. Or maybe get an extension that works with an AI assistant on your machine.

I honestly don’t care either way about an AI assistant. I don’t intend to use it, so I’d much rather their efforts be spent elsewhere.

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5 points

Why would you want that in a browser? We have LLMs you can run local.

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Yup, I stuck that as “least want.” I already marked “2x faster performance” as “most want” on another question, so hopefully it all shakes out in the end.

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You clearly missed the point about “privacy respecting.” It will only share data with Meta, Google and the US government.

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Wait, I swear mine said twice as fast. Well I guess I got filtered then. Lol

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18 points

There were both

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I had both.

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4 points

It’s an Inferred importance method, as other users have commented it is likely that there are some calibration metrics in there. MaxDiff is the name of the approach if you want to check out more.

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1 point

Mozilla is weighting on the data. They found people love AI more than a slow browser.

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Everyone’s here complaining about the randomised questions when I’m just curious why location options are “Germany”, " Brazil", “USA”, or " Somewhere we don’t care about".

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Those are simply the most significant Firefox user bases.

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Privacy law considerations. Germany is downright good for its citizens. The US has a round about spying industry. Brazil basically has mandatory mass surveilance. Everyone else’s laws are more or less the same. Not identical. But Mozilla can meet their requirements pretty trivially

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Everyone else’s laws are more or less the same.

The EU and UK have almost identical privacy laws - the GDPR, so Germany having exceptional privacy laws doesn’t hold up. As far as other privacy laws go I think France has a lead on Germany with approximately the same population, so privacy law can’t be the main consideration.

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