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So what, are you defining what a woman is for the rest of the world or what? Why is it so important if you personally think someone looks like a woman or not?
If your world view requires you to proactively hate people for disagreeing with it, as much as is happening here, you might want to reconsider your beliefs.
The question that everyone’s skipping over here to shout at you is this: In your conception, what does a woman look like? You must have a description ready to hand if you’re able to look at this athlete and say “that’s not it”.
Maybe I don’t know how women looks but I know how testosterone looks. And definetly she have a lot of it.
Well. I tried. That’s not really a good faith response to my question. If you’re not here to talk, you’re here to try and force people to listen. ‘Cept that doesn’t work so hot on the internet 🤣
See ya, Noisy.
Damn Russian government big mad huh?
Is it really transphobia if no trans athletes were involved? Or rather plain old misogyny?
The root of it is transphobia because before the Olympics started, they predicted that because trans athletes are allowed like they have been for over 20 years, they’ll dominate every event despite that not happening before and nothing having changed recently. Since that didn’t happen, because admitting that they were wrong is very clearly not an option, they accuse cis athletes that they deem not sufficiently feminine of being trans. People who don’t really follow what’s going on but take the right wing position by default believe them, and it reinforces their biases, so it works as propaganda despite a complete lack of basis in reality.
yes. first of all transphobia is very closely linked to misogyny, if not rooted in it.
but also if bigots were educated they would stop being bigots, so it’s a guarantee that they are fucking illiterate fuckwits.
and in being so you can’t really expect them to be accurate with their hatred; in fact they are specifically bad at telling people who aren’t like them apart which makes it very easy for them to target the wrong people.
post-covid cinophobia affected non-chinese asians, as post 9/11 islamophobia affected sikhs and other brown people, as transphobia so often affects cis women who may look a little less than traditional. i can keep going for all kinds of bigotry.
it doesn’t mean they’re not doing something in the name of hating a specific group just because they’re fucking idiots who don’t know who’s in that group or not.
There are plenty of highly-educated, highly intelligent bigots. Likewise, there are plenty of people with almost no education to speak of who are opposed to bigotry. Bigotry isn’t about education or intelligence, it’s far more insidious and rooted in our psychology. A lot of it is subconscious - we all have innate in-group bias, for example.
All of us are susceptible to bigotry, and the best way to prevent it is to be aware that you’re not immune to it and check whether your knee-jerk reactions are justified or not.
i should say educated in related issues. it’s demonstrable that even simple exposure to different kinds of people reduces bigotry.
people who are bigoted can be educated, of course, but most likely they won’t really know much about the people they’re bigoted against, even when they dedicate their life to thinking about them.
transphobes for example, barely think about anything other than trans people all day. they start transvestigating cis people as we’ve seen here.
I’m also not trying to suggest being uneducated automatically makes you a bigot either. some obvious hyperbole has been used.
Transmisogyny is its own goddamn entire ass terrible thing, and a really useful concept for understanding all kinds of shit in The Discourse.
Hah, go figure. Russia’s connected to every right wing moral panic, it seems. From trump to migrants to using gender for the purpose of discrediting people of color. It’s always that idiot in Moscow.
Russia deserves to be booted from the internet at this point. A glorified gas station, home to massive numbers of bots and agitators, allowed to undermine democracies worldwide. Cut the cables. (Install a quick-disconnect? It’s like a series of pipes, right? /s)
Then we need to deal with poorly moderated sites (like Elon’s) that encourage dis/misinfo and hate to spread, under the guise of “freeze peach”.
It is already, from both sides. There’s massive censorship from the inside, with a killswitch already in place waiting for a moment to actually disconnect Russia from the global internet. As well as sanctions and embargoes from every other site, no matter if they’re commercial or not, just because admins couldn’t be bothered implementing anything better than blocking the entire Russian IP range.
Fuck you for saying this, though. Don’t call to make the lives of anti-war people harder than it already is, you’d just be throwing more fuel into the fire by proving the Russian propaganda to be true.
