Stumbled upon this video, which kind of summarizes the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxaIP8F3K8

In summary

  • lack of risk taking by the industry
  • lack of creativity
  • industry prioritizes profit by making games compatible with the previous consoles generation
  • removal of split screen
  • outdated voice communication compared to PC Discord
  • disabled voice communication by default

For people here who have a current console, what do you think about this?

Another video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lX2mixdKQ

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Abandon consoles. Embrace the inevitability of the PC master race.

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35 points

I wasn’t sure about the Steam Deck, but my god man - it truly is the best of all worlds.

  • [x] Playing games in bed with instant suspend/resume
  • [x] Easy emulation of old (and new) consoles
  • [x] Supports and excels at playing the vast majority of my old Steam games
  • [ ] Makes me snacks when I’m hungry.

I’ve played Chronotrigger on here, Skies of Arcadia, and Civ3. Lately I’ve been going through the Yakuza series for the first time.

I will say that I’m always a little tempted to get a console for the exclusive new titles, but I can never justify the price when I have such a big backlog of games already.

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14 points

I will say that I’m always a little tempted to get a console for the exclusive new titles, but I can never justify the price when I have such a big backlog of games already

A while back, as a patient gamer, I waited until Wii & Wii games were cheap so I could buy it. I really want to catch up on all the Wii Zelda games. But by then, someone recommended how to get it work on PC, with higher res and on better screens.

And also by that time, I had too many games. So I look forward to playing Twilight Princess in 2030.

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10 points

I recommend the Wii U HD version of Twilight Princess through Cemu at this point.

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9 points

Yeah, never had a console. I recently did get the steam deck and that has definitely allowed me to play a few games I never had the time to play before. Still have a huge backlog though.

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9 points

2026 will be the year for me. Let DDR6 and next gen APUs hit mini PCs and I’m there.

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6 points

Pretty glad I skipped the current gen consoles - my last one was an Xbox one S. Still have it around to play DVDs and blu ray lol. Steam deck has been the best gaming purchase and I don’t see myself going back.

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-3 points

I did the PC thing for 13 years. I’m over it.

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The biggest one for me is that most of the games come out on PC eventually anyway, and will generally run at higher resolutions and frame rates.

I’ve also got more than enough in my steam account to play whilst I wait for any exclusives to decide they actually want my money

Also I like that I’ve got my PC, laptop, steam deck and Nvidia shields with steam link that can all play my games in various different situations. A traditional home console kinda limits the situations in which I can play my games.

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Is it an issue, though?

Edit: The whole comment was just a misunderstanding.

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I mean, they hold the game hostage on a platform for a while just to sell things on that platform and the platform itself. That’s a bit of an issue, IMO.

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6 points

That it limits how I can play games? Well yes, it might not be a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, but it kinda sucks when you want to go to engage in one of your hobbies and can’t for whatever reason.

A simple example—I don’t have a lot of free time these days and my partner might be in the middle of watching something on the main TV where the console would typically live.

With my current situation I can hang out in the same room as her and play something on my steam deck or laptop, or I could go upstairs and play on the PC or even on the bedroom TV via steam link.

With a typical console (I’m not including the switch here), I’d either have to kick my partner off the TV (kinda shitty) or fumble around for a bit disconnecting it, moving it and connecting it up again to my other TV. All of the PC options seem better to me IMO

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I meant this:

The biggest one for me is that most of the games come out on PC eventually anyway, and will generally run at higher resolutions and frame rates.

Did you edit the comment? I could have sworn there was the word “issue” in there, originally.

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25 points

I have a Switch, which has hundreds of games and great couch coöp. I can’t speak to most of the other concerns except creativity, and to that I say: Any platform open to indie devs is one that won’t suffer from lack of creativity. You’ll have to deal with Sturgeon’s Law, but that was always true.

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9 points

Thank you for your comment. The Switch is indeed a the nice exception of this generation.

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15 points

I don’t know what this sub’s view on that is, but a hacked switch is especially nice, since usually the latest releases won’t be cracked right away but older ones will be

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4 points

Have I stumbled upon the only Switch comment about indie that doesn’t have a Steam Deck response?

Wait… What have I done…

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2 points

People are mentioning handheld consoles when talking about handheld consoles? So weird.

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Part of the value of the Switch is being able to put it in the dock and connect to TV. It’s a lot harder to co-op when you only have the little screen.

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3 points

I mean, I’m all for play what you want, thus my joke, but the SD can do that, too.

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23 points

I usually stick to PC which has a stellar track record for backward-compatibility and emulation capability, or with last-gen consoles that have an established game library.

I’m not going to buy a next-gen console based on promises and hypotheticals.

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13 points

Pretty much this. Haven’t bought a console since 2010. Fully on Steam.

Games from forever ago work. And now it’s portable on Steam Deck.

Unless you’re obsessed with the latest releases, PC is great. Even exclusives are getting on Steam. The only thing that’s not on PC is Nintendo… “Officially” anyways.

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21 points

I think the Switch and the Steamdeck/PC are where the creativity is. Indie devs are making games themselves instead of working for large game development studios. If it’s popular enough they publish on Switch as well since it’s Arm based. Mobile is where it’s at honestly.

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2 points

Agreed, I’m fairly impressed how many games Nintendo is still releasing for Switch very late in its lifetime.

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