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I would be shocked. Absolutely shocked… If the savings weren’t much, much more.
Health insurance companies are leeches.
Anyone who disagrees has never tried to pay for healthcare. Even if you have “good insurance” there’s always something stupid going on.
Doctors have no idea how they get paid, and they pay another company to work with insurance companies. That other company is impossible to contact, so if there’s any issue the insurance company and the payment company blame each other. “Oh the insurance company rejected it incorrectly” or “the payment company coded it wrong.”
Yea, I have 128k sitting above my head for almost a year now as the hospital and insurance talk. This was a surgery that was pre-authorized. They paid for everything else including the nursing facility I was in. The last part in the OR bill.
It’s far worse than that. I work in healthcare and literally just talked with a patient who was charged more at a walk-in clinic with insurance than they would have paid without.
Their visit would have cost them $250 without, they were billed $300 and insurance paid for another $150 on top of that. And it’s not like they pay nothing to have insurance in the first place.
The system is fraudulent from the ground up.
What about the shareholders Bob? Who’s looking out for them?
But how am I supposed to keep my employees if they aren’t reliant on me for access to healthcare? What am I supposed to do, pay them more? Treat them like human beings?!
I literally work with at least 3 people that are ONLY working at my job for the healthcare… One dude is 68 and gets covered in aluminum dust all day just for the fucking healthcare.
You’re goddamn right people would not be working those absolute shit jobs if it weren’t for healthcare being tied to work.
Bootlickers: “WeLl ThEn HoW aRe ThOsE bUsInEsSeS sUpPoSeD tO sUrViVe AfTeR!?”
68?
Am I missing something? Shouldn’t he already be eligible for Medicare?
More than likely. I’m just going by what he told me when I asked why he wasn’t retired or planning on it. He was given a hefty inheritance so it’s not like he needs to work.
*$5.1 Trillion will not go to big businesses and corporations
Which is why they’ll fight to the death to not allow us to have a good thing.
The US government spends the most per capita for healthcare and that money is used to cover only a minority of citizens.
People are then paying extra for private insurance over that.
Having a governmental monopoly for healthcare is the best because the government can decide how much medications and services cost, the providers don’t have a choice since they only have one client and that client’s goal isn’t to make profit or to make sure others are making profit, its goal is to pay as little as possible.
Norway has universal healthcare for everyone. Going to the ER is free. Ambulance is free. Surgery is free. Checkups and tests are heavily subsidised where we only pay a small fee (like $20). If you spend more than x-amount on fees annually, you get the fees waived for the remainder of the year.
We have health insurances, but that will only allow you to go to private clinics with less wait times. These insurances are normally paid by employers with highly skilled workers. It’s not considered to be a necessity.
The Norwegian healthcare isn’t cheap, and we pay around 35-40% income tax, and 25% VAT, but our income doesn’t dictate what type of services we’re allowed to get. Poverty is low, and crime rates are low.
Socialism works.
Reading “ambulance is free” is still crazy for my European mind. ===> “Of course it is… If the driver asks you for money, we’d put them in jail for years.”
A minority? Howso? Does that mean most people are uninsured? Or just that the majority of insurance payments go to less than 50% of people? Or…?
Just hadn’t heard that one before, so curious about details.
Public healthcare insurance covers about a third of the population, the rest are either uninsured or covered by private insurance.
Medicare only exists to cover the most expensive patients who require the most care, so that we can support a massive private insurance industry, and to ensure that industry remains profitable.
Anyone who denies that this system exists to explicitly elevate one class of people over another whom are exploited is living in a fantasy world
Ah, I assumed you meant the US in general spends the most, including for public and private.
Let me repeat what I said.
The US Government spends the most PER TOTAL CAPITA (that is $/330 million citizens) and that money only insures a monitory of citizens, a big chunk of the population ALSO spends money for private coverage OVER the share of their taxes that goes to pay for public coverage.
The US government spends 12k * 330 million citizens for public health coverage to cover about a third of those citizens, in Canada it’s about 6k * 40 million citizens that we spend to cover everyone!
