If that little dude is as stoked about Pikachu as my dude was about Ninja Turtles then I feel his frustration. My dude one time spent an entire 5-hour car ride talking about Master Splinter. If I could have left him on the side of the road in New Mexico without his mother killing me, I would have lol.
It doesn’t matter what the topic is. Kids will always fixate on things. Depends on what they were exposed to and interested in, but that’s just kids being kids.
It’s never appropriate to talk to a kid like Vance did, even if we can understand how truly annoying kids fixated on a thing is.
Also, what kind of shitty parent exposes their kids to known pedos?
That’s just little boys though, you can kindly redirect. My boy is 9 and he can talk forever about Pokémon, Minecraft or whatever he is fixated on today. Sometimes I just have to tell him I’m done now, sometimes I have to say it a few times but that’s ya know, parenting.
You didn’t drop him on the side of the road, but it was an idea to help you get through it.
It can be annoying, but I listen to my kid ramble about Minecraft for hours, and honestly I remember when I was a kid, I was never that comfortable with my parents. I’d rather sit through it and him really enjoy the time than him not feel comfortable sharing it with me.
Notably, I really didn’t develop this opinion until my wife and I separated. Now I really just enjoy listening to him talk about whatever he wants. I just enjoy time with him.
In a way, doesn’t that prove your parents were right? Because they raised a boy, maybe even a man, who feels empathy for their own children’s emotional attachments?
No. My empathy development was independent. My parents made changes in how they were raised to raising me. They taught me about being in someone else’s shoes, recognizing how things I did impacted others, the difference between privilege and right. They also denonstrated that empathy came from a place of courage rather than fear, and I knew at a very young age that courage was very valuable.
This was entirely unrelated to empathy. It was based on anxiety I developed very young for reasons that are still undiscovered. Probably just that I was a sensitive kid, and didnt want my parents angry or annoyed with me.
God I know, the only thing worse than your kid talking to you for hours about what they love is them not.
I dislike this guy as much as everyone else, but isn’t the fact that his son wants to tell him about Pokémon all the time an indication that he is not a terrible father?
I mean, I can only speak from personal experience, but the kids I’ve seen who are treated badly do not want to talk to their parents about their interests.
Yeah people are reading too much into this. I’d like to think I’d never say shut the hell up to my kids (or anyone else), but everyone’s family dynamic is different.
Unfortunately sometimes you have to make them understand that now is not the time. This may be his attempt to do so.
I only spanked my kids once and that was when they tried to run into traffic. I’m sure some people watching judged me and thought I was a terrible parent. But I needed to make them understand immediately that they can’t do that.
Nah, man, you made an error in your parenting. It’s not a big deal so long as your recognize it but at this point there is pretty substantial evidence that such discipline techniques are generally more harmful than not.
And that’s ok, because honestly parenting is fucking hard. I definitely get rougher and less patient with my kid when I’m stressed, but it’s a behavior I recognize I need to change and actively work on because it is objectively, unquestionably, bad parenting. This is a long way of saying that while, yea, family dynamics vary, there are many ways of parenting that are just very clearly bad or good, and recognizing the bad, even in ourselves, is something that is necessary for being a complete parent.
Not at all what I meant. I’m not sorry and I would spank my kids again if they tried to do something life threatening (fortunately they are old enough that I don’t have to do that).
People shouldn’t jump to conclusions or judge other parents for their parenting styles as long as it isn’t out and out abuse.
There are plenty of other policy and moral decisions that J.D. Vance to bag on than the way he disciplined his kid. If there was a history of abuse then that would be a different thing altogether.
Unfortunately sometimes you have to make them understand that now is not the time. This may be his attempt to do so.
And yet my parents, my wife’s parents and we as parents have never had to say that to a child. Once.
I only spanked my kids once and that was when they tried to run into traffic. I’m sure some people watching judged me and thought I was a terrible parent. But I needed to make them understand immediately that they can’t do that.
So they learned the necessary truth that if they try to run into traffic, they will be hit by a parent?
I don’t think you’re a terrible parent for that, but I am judging you. That doesn’t let them know why it’s wrong to run into traffic, it just lets them think it makes you angry. That is not a way to teach your kids a lesson.
Or his son wants attention you can be treated poorly without being treated poorly physically.
Manny wats to interpret a situation and of a kid wants to tell him someone one time how do we know he is constantly wanting to talk about it.
Regardless, your comment does one thing it tries to side step the real glooming issue. You shouldn’t be an ass to your kids by shutting them down the way he did. There are way better ways to handle this. I cuss like a sailor but I would never tell a kid to shut the hell up.
Nah, this is guys a fuckwad.
I agree with you in principle, but after having a kid who, without wanting to go into too much detail, requires my constant attention, I can understand parents losing their cool. Thankfully, I have never done it myself, but I have definitely been close to my breaking point a few times already.
Look, all I’m saying is that I have stopped judging parents as easily as I did when I didn’t have any kids. The guy might be an ass to them. Or he might not be. I just dislike people jumping to conclusions as fast as they are.
Somehow I have gone through over 14 years of parenthood without ever telling my child to “shut the hell up.”
You say, “please be quiet for a minute, ok? We’re talking about something important.” Something like that seemed to work just fine when she was of the age where she constantly babbled about video games.
I wanted to tell my dad about Pokemon, but my parents were religious fanatics. They sent me to an all boys extreme religious group home for being autistic where kids were raped and beat. My parents wouldn’t listen as I begged them to take me out and that we were being abused. They still defend the place 20 years later after it was sued into the ground. When I came out to them this year as transfem they told me not to contact them again and I haven’t heard a word since.
It’s not a very reliable indication that a kid wants to share their interests with their mom and dad. They’re your parents. Kids crave bonding over their interests.
I still wish things were better and dad would play video games with me, even though I know he’s a piece of shit sent from the lowest level of humanity attainable.
Sorry if a virtual hug is inappropriate. I am just glad that you can be you now.
Dad we gotta
Might be an unpopular opinion While JD has said plenty of horrible things, this reads more like someone relating how they felt in the moment than reciting what was actually said. I’m sure most parents have felt this way at some point. We don’t need to make this mole hill into a mountain. There’s already a whole mountain range of his shit that’s actually egregious.
Agreed, this is the dumbest thing ever. I get that they’re trying to make them look bad, but I’m sure over half the people with kids have told their young child to shut the hell up when they’re on the phone with someone “important”.
This was me every other day during lockdown. My kids would walk into my ad hoc office and start complaining about some random shit or come in there to continue their little squabble.
I heard a guy tell his teenage kids to “shut the fuck up!” multiple times.
This really isn’t worth a story. Conservatives are awful in so many other ways. This is more of a human moment.
Yeah, back in 2022 I was doing teletherapy and the therapist worked from home and had a baby and one a few years old. Half the time I could hear them screaming in the background (granted you can’t really tell a baby to be quiet, but you can a little kid) and it was annoying as hell to listen to.
Yes, let’s not be too hard on good old JD, who called Democrat politicians a bunch of childless cat ladies with miserable lives".
“The entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children,” he said at the time. “How does it make any sense we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”
The Senator from Ohio said the country was being run “by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too”.
This has nothing to do with going easy on JD. It has to do with the things we chose to criticize on principle. It’s about who we choose to be. You gave two great examples of things we should judge him for. I’m happy to focus on those and the next oppressive thing he says. If you want to be someone who criticizes parents for getting exasperated by their kids, that’s your perogative, but that’s not me and I don’t think people should.
You can definitely get exasperated by kids without acting like this. I’m honestly a bit shocked how many people seem to think this is ok behavior.
I’m conflicted.
I feel that the assessment you made is accurate.
But, Context matters. and in this case he made this comment that shows him being annoyed as a dad after going on the record about how useless people without kids are and calling childless women crazy cat ladies.
It just reeks to me of him being jealous of people who don’t have kids and/or him regretting being a parent?
Idk. I’m not sold on my take. I guess good for him for being in the kids life in a significant way, but again I don’t like the framing of his anti family stances with complaining about being a parent. Pick a side lol
It just reeks to me of him being jealous of people who don’t have kids and/or him regretting being a parent?
Perhaps. I don’t think there’s much here to substantiate that reading though, even with the context. I’d want a bit more evidence if I were to incorporate that into my appraisal of him.
You can judge someone to be morally repugnant without interpreting everything they say/do as an extension of the things that make them repugnant. It doesn’t lessen the repugnance.
My dad would tell me to shut the fuck up when I was a kid. I don’t talk to him anymore
I’m guilty of saying mean things to my kid too. Sometimes kids are just fucking annoying. If you recall, each and everyone of us were probably fucking annoying at some point in our life. I think though that I wouldn’t do that for a douchebag like trump. Like, as a parent, we learn to avoid the toy isle at Walmart. Anything that triggers the blind craze for something from the kids so you’re not out in that situation. Here though, with vans, he’s basically insulting his kid while trump dildoes him for the vise president spot. He’s boot licking it up all the way up trumps butthole until he’s officially the VP.
