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I keep basically all of my shit on Gitlab, so depending on who they sell it to, that might be a goodbye. I’ve really enjoyed the platform, but if it goes into hands of either some clueless business people, data aggregator, or “AI-first” bullshit, i’m migrating to something else.

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I can’t think of a single reason that wouldn’t happen.

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There would be no other incentive for companies to buy it.

A company might want to extend it’s service offering with a build pipeline/CICD system, and buying GitLab would get them the best-in-class service.

Microsoft bought GitHub for much of the same reasons, and GitHub didn’t went to hell after the acquisition.

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So many errors in what you’ve written aren’t with the fact that one can INSTALL a copy of gitlab and get the CI/CD features, but actually with simple English.

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I’m in the same boat. I migrated all my stuff to Gitlab the day it was announced that Github was being acquired by Microsoft. I hadn’t even really heard of Codeberg at the time. So I migrated to Gitlab.

And it sounds now like there’s a high likelikhood I’ll need to move it all again.

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I hadn’t even really heard of Codeberg at the time.

Codeberg didn’t exist back then yet.

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3 points

That would explain it.

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I’ve had my stuff on Gitlab way before that ever even happened, just because I’ve already had issues with the platform before, and knew it would eventually change hands. Shame it’ll likely happen again with this too

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41 points

Come to Codeberg! I’m a member of the co-op and we’re not for sale.

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I’ve been casually taking a look at it for a bit, so it’s definitely on the radar

Edit: Overall i’m happy, at first proper glance, but not having access to even barebones CI is kind of a pain. I can’t really deploy my own at the moment, and having to request access to their own Woodpecker instance is something that seems unlikely to be approved

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Codeberg is where I will be next. A nonprofit ownership created because they didn’t like the commercialization of other providers that’s getting more and more popular. Seems like they likely won’t go down this rabbit hole.

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You shouldn’t wait because it’s going to happen. I moved all of my projects off of Github and Gitlab, and now self-hosting my own gitea instance. It’s been great and never looked back!

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13 points

Btw gitea has been involved in some shit, most of the Devs quit and created Forgejo. AFAIK you can seamlessly switch from gitea without needing to completely reset it.

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5 points

Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Is there any official statement? Search didn’t turn up anything. I guess I don’t necessarily need to know exactly how it went down, but I wanna be nosy. :D

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you can seamlessly switch from gitea without needing to completely reset it.

For now; Forgejo is hard forking, which may break things soon.

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I actually have an account on there with almost nothing, just my nix configuration, plus a repo I cloned to commit a bug fix on software I used. But it seemed like the most responsible solution as in the price is reasonable, plus I actually like the interface. Codeberg also looks good and claims to be better in some regards, but these are the only choices nowadays.

Anyhow, I’m still waiting for Pijul to have a final 1.0 release and independent hosting solutions to appear.

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2 points

Same here. Gitlab CI was a game-changer for me, too. Any thoughts on where else you’d consider going? Aside from GitHub, that is.

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I suspect that in the worst case scenario, i’ll be moving stuff to Codeberg and hosting my own CI to support it

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It’s funny because despite all the fearmongering about Microsoft’s Github acquisition it feels like it only improved since then, while Gitlab has done a shitton of questionable and shitty decisions, a ton of critical security issues and in general feels like (at best) they don’t know what they are doing.

The only thing Gitlab has going for itself is that it’s self-hostable, but they still retain a large amount of control.

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124 points

Time to federate repos?

https://forgejo.org/

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I hope they get true federation up running soon.

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Absolutely.

I’ll self host my own forgejo instance soon.

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It’s also what codeberg uses under the hood for those that don’t self host.

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GitLab has been working on support for ActivityPub/ForgeFed federation as well, currently only implemented for releases though.

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For code hosting, doesn’t that just mean you’re self-hosting + others can utilize you space for a backup?

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I think the benefits of federation is discoverability. I can spin up my gitea or forgejo (or something else!) Instance, but when people look for code in their instances, they can still discover my public repositories, and if they want to contribute, they can fork and open PRs from their instances.

So yeah, it means mostly you can selfhost and provide space to others, but with the same benefits that right now github offers (I.e., everything is there).

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No, it means people can contribute issues and pull requests to projects on other servers. Repositories would only be created on the server your account is on if I’m not mistaken. I believe it uses activitypub internally, so should work the same as Lemmy/mastodon.

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6 points

Yes, it uses ActivityPub with the ForgeFed extension.

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3 points

Maybe you would be able to disable other users from creating repos.

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94 points

The chances of a deal are said to be weeks away, if not non-existent.

What kind of non-sentence is that?

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It’s an existing sentence if it’s not non-exisent.

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20 points

Big if true and big.

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22 points

Seems like a perfectly cromulent English sentence to me.

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13 points

Looked up “cromulent” in the dictionary. Wasn’t disappointed!!

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1 point

The fact it’s now in the dictionary proper is bizarre… but I mean… so is “okay.” And that’s almost the same ascended joke.

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10 points

The kind of sentence you write when you’re still 20 words from the target your editor set for the article

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10 points

It’s what they most not the least

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The chances of the coin flip yielding heads are roughly 50%, if coins don’t not exist.

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2 points

It feels like it’s saying “if rumors are true, the deal is weeks away.” A reminder that it might not be the case.

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2 points

It means when the author was waiting for his order at Popeyes, the guy in front who did small talk with him introduced himself as a Gitlab employee and told the author “Gitlab might sell in weeks. It is a deal or no deal”

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55 points

Fuck

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I literally made an account the day before and transferred from GitHub, then wake up and see this. FFS just my luck.

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7 points

Wait, this is YOUR fault?!! 😋

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2 points

Codeberg!

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Does Codeberg have anything like Gitlab CI, or does it need to be paired with other build tools like Jenkins, TeamCity, etc?

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13 points

You should all incorporate and buy it.

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I feel like sourcehut really ought to be mentioned more. It federates issue and PRs by email and has a wonderful interface while not having any ads—which is why hosting one’s own repo (and their CI and IRC but nothing else) requires $2 a month, unfortunately.

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I don’t think it makes any sense to mention source hut because none of the features you mentioned are killer features (or relevant. Why should I care about implementation details of feature tracking?) and it completely fails to address GitLab’s main value proposition: it’s CICD system.

Anyone can put up any ticketing system. They are a dime a dozen. Some version control systems even ship with their own. CICD is a whole different ballgame. It’s very hard to put together a CICD system that’s easy to manage and has a great developer experience. Not even GitHub managed to pull that off. GitLab is perhaps the only one who pulled this off. A yams file with a dozen or so lines is all it takes to get a pipeline that builds, tests, and delivers packages, and it’s easy to read and understand what happens. On top of that, it’s trivial to add your own task runners hosted anywhere in the world, in any way you’d like. GitLab basically solved this problem. That’s why people use it.

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I use gitlab ci mainly and dabble in github actions. Can you clarify how “Not even Github managed to pull that off”? IIRC, actions is quite featureful and it’s open-source, so I assume that can be run with self-hosted runners as well.

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Yep, at my previous job I moved a pretty complex build system from Jenkins to github actions. It worked fine and was much simpler to maintain.

And yes there are ways to run github actions on your own machine, but I haven’t tried it.

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Can you clarify how “Not even Github managed to pull that off”?

GitHub actions has an atrocious user experience, to the point that even a year or so ago people where doubting it was production-ready.

Sure, you can put together a pipeline. But I challenge anyone to try it out with GitHub actions and then just try to do the same with GitLab or even CircleCI or Travis.

The fact that people compare GitHub Actions go Jenkins of all things is everything anyone needs to know about it’s user experience.

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Using email for anything is a non-feature for me. I want nothing to do with that outdated, confusing piece of tech that has been shoved in all sorts of places it doesn’t belong

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Email is confusing? Since when?

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Since forever. It’s very slow, I’m still not sure replying is actually in the spec or email clients fake it with Re: and then force you to quote the entire history of the conversation back and forth. Also very easy to break if you don’t like the Re: or something. People are constantly replying to the wrong person or persons, sometimes even to themselves. You have weirdly named fields “cc” and “bcc” that are present all the even though I use them like 4x and 1x a year, respectively. You can’t unsend or delete emails.

And all this is before I get into doing git or calendars over email.

Email is in fact one of the reasons I’m not sure I want the fediverse to succeed right now, because then all the faults of activitypub will be forced on us for centuries, like they are with email.

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